8N Repair Shop

The 8N tractor is simple to work on so most any repair shop *could* do the work. The trick is to find one that *will* work on it.
 
Most Mechanics nowadays are reliant on electronic testers to diagnose troubles in machines. N-tractors have
no electronics to test and are beyond the scope of most. They are simple machines,but require logic to
diagnose.
 
(quoted from post at 20:02:56 06/10/22) Most Mechanics nowadays are reliant on electronic testers to diagnose troubles in machines. N-tractors have
no electronics to test and are beyond the scope of most. They are simple machines,but require logic to
diagnose.



Can you say that again so I can see the logic in that statement.
 
Henry Ford provided farmers with tractors that are easy to maintain. They are easy to maintain and I'm grateful for that.
"Easy to work on"?
Not always.
And I see that attitude often as the cause of so very, very many buggered up, jury-rigged Ns.
A perfect valve job, or governor, or hydraulic pump overhaul, and other repair requires special tools, knowledge and hopefully experience to do correctly.
I would be very nervous about turning my 2N or 8N over to someone for repair unless I was absolutely certain that they had a high level of expertise on vintage Ford tractors.
And those guys are fewer with each passing day.
Although I'm not a total expert, I love taking the time to learn and perform repairs myself correctly. It adds to the fun!!
 

There are generally antique tractor clubs around. Find the one(s) near you and make contact with them. You may find some suggestions for a local repair source through the club. Ask at the local tractor and equipment dealers, they may know of people doing such repair work.
 
(quoted from post at 01:52:03 06/11/22)
(quoted from post at 20:02:56 06/10/22) Most Mechanics nowadays are reliant on electronic testers to diagnose troubles in machines. N-tractors have
no electronics to test and are beyond the scope of most. They are simple machines,but require logic to
diagnose.



Can you say that again so I can see the logic in that statement.
I was referring to "Most Modern"Mechanics,but certainly not all. As to the electronics,I was referring to modern stuff that can be tested with an electronic tester,such as OBD1,2,etc. There isn't a test port. My first truck was a '48 Dodge with a 6 cyl flathead,6v+g,but most people that are younger than 70 haven't worked on "primitive" stuff and probably wouldn't want to stsrt.
 
(quoted from post at 23:16:30 06/10/22) Henry Ford provided farmers with tractors that are easy to maintain. They are easy to maintain and I'm grateful for that.
"Easy to work on"?
Not always.
And I see that attitude often as the cause of so very, very many buggered up, jury-rigged Ns.
A perfect valve job, or governor, or hydraulic pump overhaul, and other repair requires special tools, knowledge and hopefully experience to do correctly.
I would be very nervous about turning my 2N or 8N over to someone for repair unless I was absolutely certain that they had a high level of expertise on vintage Ford tractors.
And those guys are fewer with each passing day.
Although I'm not a total expert, I love taking the time to learn and perform repairs myself correctly. It adds to the fun!!
..but for those who know & understand those "special tools", they are not necessary to do a proper job. As I see it, all those do is position and measure. Nothing a yard stick & calipers can't do.
 
...but for those who know & understand those "special tools", they are not necessary to do a proper job.

The knowledge and experience is the most valuable for sure.
But without my Ford Flathead Valve pilot, I would have had a hard time using a yardstick cutting precision valve seats,
Most folks that I know with knowledge and experience appreciate proper tools.
 
(quoted from post at 22:49:41 06/11/22)
(quoted from post at 01:52:03 06/11/22)
(quoted from post at 20:02:56 06/10/22) Most Mechanics nowadays are reliant on electronic testers to diagnose troubles in machines. N-tractors have
no electronics to test and are beyond the scope of most. They are simple machines,but require logic to
diagnose.



Can you say that again so I can see the logic in that statement.
I was referring to "Most Modern"Mechanics,but certainly not all. As to the electronics,I was referring to modern stuff that can be tested with an electronic tester,such as OBD1,2,etc. There isn't a test port. My first truck was a '48 Dodge with a 6 cyl flathead,6v+g,but most people that are younger than 70 haven't worked on "primitive" stuff and probably wouldn't want to stsrt.

There isn't a test port.

That diagnostic link is there so you can retrieve the information in a timely fashion it has little to do with the actual repair unless you skill level is a parts cannon.

The same basic diagnostic principles and understanding of how the system works are used on a 70 year old tractors.

Its demand with demand the money will follow and the demand is not there. I don't know who came up with the phrase Logic I can tell ya they missed the boat and used it to cover up their lack of basic understanding of how the system works.

If you were to change that and say.

They are simple machines that require basic understanding and strategy to diagnosis then you would be close : ) Then you would have to admit a modern mechanic will also need basic understanding of the system to accomplish his job proficiently.

I have seen no crank post go on for weeks up to 6 pages logic did not find the cause of the problem. A very basic test was overlooked the same test you would use if it had a test port.
 
There isn't a test port.


If you were to change that and say.

They are simple machines that require basic understanding and strategy to diagnosis then you would be close : ) Then you would have to admit a modern mechanic will also need basic understanding of the system to accomplish his job proficiently.

I have seen no crank post go on for weeks up to 6 pages logic did not find the cause of the problem. A very basic test was overlooked the same test you would use if it had a test port.[/quote]

I have seen no crank post go on for weeks up to 6 pages logic did not find the cause of the problem. A very basic test was overlooked the same test you would use if it had a test port.

Good Logic Hobo !
 
(quoted from post at 01:19:43 06/12/22)
(quoted from post at 22:49:41 06/11/22)
(quoted from post at 01:52:03 06/11/22)
(quoted from post at 20:02:56 06/10/22) Most Mechanics nowadays are reliant on electronic testers to diagnose troubles in machines. N-tractors have
no electronics to test and are beyond the scope of most. They are simple machines,but require logic to
diagnose.



Can you say that again so I can see the logic in that statement.
I was referring to "Most Modern"Mechanics,but certainly not all. As to the electronics,I was referring to modern stuff that can be tested with an electronic tester,such as OBD1,2,etc. There isn't a test port. My first truck was a '48 Dodge with a 6 cyl flathead,6v+g,but most people that are younger than 70 haven't worked on "primitive" stuff and probably wouldn't want to stsrt.

There isn't a test port.

That diagnostic link is there so you can retrieve the information in a timely fashion it has little to do with the actual repair unless you skill level is a parts cannon.

The same basic diagnostic principles and understanding of how the system works are used on a 70 year old tractors.

Its demand with demand the money will follow and the demand is not there. I don't know who came up with the phrase Logic I can tell ya they missed the boat and used it to cover up their lack of basic understanding of how the system works.

If you were to change that and say.

They are simple machines that require basic understanding and strategy to diagnosis then you would be close : ) Then you would have to admit a modern mechanic will also need basic understanding of the system to accomplish his job proficiently.

I have seen no crank post go on for weeks up to 6 pages logic did not find the cause of the problem. A very basic test was overlooked the same test you would use if it had a test port.
ou want me to say that I'm wrong? OK,if it makes you feel better,I WAS WRONG!!
 
I generally do my own repair work; tune ups, carb rebuild, etc but the overheating has got me stumped. We had the water jackets rheemed out a couple years ago for the same reason and it worked for a while but now it overheated after a few minutes. Part of the problem is the tractor sits unused for months at a time at out cottage
 

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