Extra serial number

So I bought a tractor thats a 46 9N by the engine serial
number. Theres a different serial number (no letters) on a
sticker on the frame. Any idea what that number means?

I think Im including a picture of the sticker with the serial

The sticker picture is at i. imgur. com/W2dyeWB. jpg (take out the spaces). Seems like I didnt include it correctly

(quoted from post at 06:56:13 08/12/21) The sticker picture is at i. imgur. com/W2dyeWB. jpg (take out the spaces). Seems like I didnt include it correctly

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Can't make your link work, even after removing the spaces.

Not always, but in many cases new users have to have 5 or more posts on record before the site lets them post pictures (or links), due to site spam filters. Another option is to go down to the Site Comments Forum and ask YT Support for permission to post prior to that. You can try going down to the Test Forum and making several posts there to get your post count up, trying to attach your pictures to each post. That may work after you make several posts. Then make your post here again. It may not work immediately after you get past the 5 posts, if not, you might try logging out and back in at that point. There is a size limit as well, I think it is a total of 7mb per post (be it one picture or the total of several). Some pictures (often taken with phones), are too large and have to be reduced before they will post.

Thanks for the help. I'm still getting used to the interface. Might be working this time...

(quoted from post at 08:14:00 08/12/21) Thanks for the help. I'm still getting used to the interface. Might be working this time...


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You say this is on the frame. Frame of what, a loader or something else? How about a picture or two of the complete tractor?

First off if it is in fact a 1946 it is a 2n not a 9n even though your serial number starts with 9n also Ford n tractors don't have frames the engine transmission and rear end housings all attach together directly. Second the tag you show is a Ferguson implement tag and it is on a frame attached to the tractor. Others will chime in and may even be able to tell what implement the frame was for. Hope this helps

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I think that plate is located on the frame right under the dash panel behind air cleaner.

This post was edited by KristofMI on 08/12/2021 at 07:29 am.

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I think that plate is located on the frame right under the dash panel behind air cleaner.

This post was edited by KristofMI on 08/12/2021 at 07:29 am.

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the plate you are thinking of is the patent date data plate. his is a Ferguson plate so not part of the tractor.

On the frame Best guess is what's left of the dearborn belly sickle bar mower.

You mean Ferguson belly sickle bar mower, Since it has a Ferguson tag on it!

First of all, ALL 9N and 2N Models used the 9N prefix in the serial number -there were no 2N stamped serial numbers. Second, the engine block serial number was hand stamped ONLY in one place - behind the oil filter housing under the head on a cast raised boss. You show a Ferguson-Sherman ID Tag for an implement but I can't read the Model Number of the implement. The serial number of the implement is above that but means nothing. Thirdly, serial numbers mean nothing really. The s/n was hand stamped on the ENGINE BLOCK ONLY after it was assembled and passed QC break-in/inspection. Once approved it was moved to a hold area until the assembled block was pulled to meet up with assembly line to be installed in a tractor. Unless you have an early 9N that you plan to restore to all original and can verify the block is OEM to that tractor, forget abut the s/n. Engines were swapped out often so cannot tell you if it was original to that tractor. ALL 9N & 2N Models were basically the same after s/n 12500 in early 1940 as well and used up thru 2N production at the end of 1946. A 1947 2N was actually built in 1946 because Ford was tooling up for the new 8N model to be released in July, 1947. After April, 1940, the 9N and 2N used the same basic electrical system and there were only a few minor cosmetic changes to the tractor after that like steering box, radius rods, and radiator for a few. The 9N/2N electrical setup was: 6V/POS GRN; 1-Wire/3-Brush, A-Circuit, 11 AMP GEN with the Roundcan Cutout Circuit; 1-Wire Starter Motor with NO SOLENOID; 30/30 AMMETER; OEM Ballast Resistor; Front Mount Distributor w/square can coil; Ignition Switch; Pushbutton start switch; and all wired correctly. Lights were never factory installed on the N-Series tractors. Lighting kits dealer supplied optional accessories. Many 6V systems have been switched out 12V, but many tractors, regardless if 6V or 12V, have been wired incorrectly and are the root cause of non-starting machines. Get the ESSENTIAL MANUALS. Don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff... ; > )


Tim Daley(MI)

Well, yes, technically, but many of the Ferguson-Sherman Implements were made by the same suppliers after Henry the Deuce fired Harry Ferguson and dissolved the old handshake agreement clause and Dearborn Motors was incorporated on JAN 1, 1947. Dearborn Motors Corp became the new tractor and implement distributor and the 8N Model was released in JUL 1947 with a whole new line of implements but these were all built by outside suppliers like their predecessors only now with new Ford/Dearborn part numbers and model numbers. Most parts were the same design, just new numbers. Know too that FORD never built any implement themselves, except for the first plows which were built at the Rouge but only for 2 years with the new 9N tractor. The plow that Ferguson brought over in 1938 with his 3-pt design on his Ferguson-Black tractor was of inferior design and quality and so FORD engineers designed a better one. In 1939 and the new Ford-Ferguson 9N, all new implements had to be made as well, to be retrofitted as 3-point Lift Type units. Think about it. Implements were around long before the 3-PT Lift Design, with pull-type implements and with horse-drawn implements. FORD sought out manufactures of these experienced implement gurus that had been making pull-type implements for years and, under contract with FORD, came up with modified designs to manufacture new 3-PT implements using FORD model and part numbers. Companies like Detroit Harvester made mowers; Pittsburgh Forging made cultivators; Dempster made Grain Drills & Planters; Dellinger made cordwood saws; ARPS made front dozers, snow blades, and back blades; Danuser made post hole diggers; Budd Co made plows; Farm Rite and Farm Tools made disc harrows; and WOOD BROS made corn pickers and combines, just for a few examples. It was booming era and sadly all of these companies are long gone.

Tim Daley(MI)