3pt disc harrow worth?

Mad Farmer

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Put this up in implements but no replies yet...

One nearby might come up on the market. Been in touch with seller but no visual/inspection yet.

Original old one fergy/dearborn, not a Chi-Com junk.

What is it worth, depending if it's working condition or not?
 
Well Jimmy I could use one but don't need.

Have not seen condition.

Not sure about "models", stuff I have: 2bt-plow and springer are original to my 9N.

If You could educate me on models of disc-3pt I'd be will'n to learn. All I know now it's made for an N/1940s, supposed to be fergy/deaborn

This post was edited by Mad Farmer on 08/09/2021 at 10:29 am.
 
(quoted from post at 13:16:45 08/09/21) $100 to$800 depending on model, bearings, width, and how bad you need it.
ep, condition is everything in old equipment. Some used wood bearings, some soft metal, some roller or ball bearings....they all eventually fail. Can you find replacements? Willing/able to do the hard work to replace &/or pay the price? BTDT.
 
A bit of advice if/when you go look at an
old, used disc harrow.
Bring an 8 ft 2x6 or 4x4 and a chunk of wood about
1 ft long with you to use as a lever and
fulcrum.
Use your lever to lift each end of the gang
frame (not from under the axles) and
watch closely how much up/down slop there is in EACH of the
bearings. If there is more than about 3/16
in of slop, the bearings are worn out and
and you won't get much use from your
purchase. Less than 3/16 means there is
some life in it yet.
Also use you lever to pry your discs back
and forth to see if they are loose on the
shaft.
The bearings - or boxings - on lot of those old Dearborn type
discs with 7/8 in square axle shafts are
pretty much unobtainable at any price now
days.
Do the lifting right in front of the
seller. It will let him know you are
nobody's fool about this old stuff and he
may fess up on other flaws on it or cave on
the price.
Good luck.

This post was edited by Ultradog MN on 08/09/2021 at 03:26 pm.
 
Last spring I bought a Dearborn Series D two gang 3-point disc harrow with tight bearings
for $40.00 at an estate sale. I had to load it myself, so I trailered my 2N there, hooked it
up, and drove back on to the trailer.

Other than the usual coating of surface rust, the only damage is a chunk broken out of one of
the 18 discs. I tested it out and it works well. I did have to replace most of the grease
fittings. My grease coupler wouldn't seal against the old ones.
 
You can't put a value on this old equipment -it is what it is -whatever someone is willing pay. You must realize that most all of these old Ford-Ferguson and Dearborn Farm Implements are no long since out of business and very few aftermarket parts can still be bought today. You might find a piece that is still usable as-is and many fellas just restore one to put on their tractors at shows. I've had over 50 original Ford implements and bought a used Dearborn Series E complete with the special top link that was used on that model only. It gave me 25 years of use before I sold it last year and never replaced any part on it, just kept it greased.


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Tim Daley(MI)
 
I can tell you that if a 3 point hitch it is not older than a 1948 as they did not make a 3 point befor that.
 
I went to an auction last week where a nice E series Dearborn tandem disc/harrow sold for 650.oo

The Jubilee that was sold new with that disc anda Dearborn Economy plow sold for 1200.oo. That 10-158 plow brought 250.oo
 
I'm not sure I understood your comment Leroy.
If you are saying Ford didn't make or sell the implements before 1948 then I agree.
But if you are saying they didn't have a 3 point disc for these tractors before 1948 that would be incorrect.
Ferguson made and sold the implements as part of the hand shake agreement and of course they had a 3 point disc to go with the plows.
 
(quoted from post at 06:34:29 08/10/21) I can tell you that if a 3 point hitch it is not older than a 1948 as they did not make a 3 point befor that.

Something haywire with your comment, Leroy.
Test question: While Henry Ford was already making tractorrs; what and when was the "Ferguson System"?
 
The Ferguson disk was not a 3 point disk but a drag disk with a hitch that would work with the 3 point to put into and out of gear. They made two different hitches depending on year. I had the later type and don't think it was as good as the earlier type. I do have the parts-operator books and a friend now fas the later style that I had, 6 blades on a side with 18 blades that I think were orignal.
 
The disk, yes the 3 point was first on 9N in 1939 but they were earlier 3 point hitches but not a standard hitch. Ford did not have a Derborn labled disk untill 1948 when Ford and Ferguson split. The Ferguson disk used the 3 point to control a drag type disk.
 
The Ferguson system was designed by Harry Ferguson in conjunction with Henry Ford for the First 9N tractor in 1939, They later split and Ford designed their own 3 point hitch for the 1948 8N tractor and Ferguson kept his designed for the Ferguson TE20, TO20 and TO30, I am not sure if the 20's were brought out in 47 or untill 48. But the Dearborn line that was Ford did not come untill the 1948 8N. Not sure exactly what year the 3 point Ferguson was brought out but it was not untill after WW2.
 
So you are saying no 3 point discs till 1948?
That those two smart men could build this brilliant new lift type of hitch system which changed agriculture forever, that they could build an equally brilliant type of plow which transferred the weight of plowing to the tractor and devised a system of draft control but they didn't have the perspicacity to build a 3 point disc untill 9 years later?
They built numerous other 3 point tools such as Ferguson/Carrington back blades and cultivators in that time but still used a pull type disc?
Behind a tractor that didn't even have a normal drawbar?
Let's see; you hook up to your nifty plow, lift it, then zip on out to the field.
Then come back, add your jungle gym staybars, hook to a pull type disc and trudge back out with that?
Truthfully, I don't know what disc they used in 39. Never really thought about it. Always just assumed it was also 3 point. But I doubt they would have sold half a million 9/2s if that's how it was done.
 
First off those tractors were not designed to carry that much weight on back end, makes front end too light, the other things did not have that weight problem. And the earlier disk used a swinging drawbar to help turning, Later ones you just raised the 3 point arms to put disk out of gear for turning and kowered then again when on straight away. And it took no longer to hook up a later version than the plow, actually les work as you did not have to be exact. The books that came with a new tractor only showed and covered the type I am talking about. True the old disks, a lot were horse drawn disks were light weight and did not dig much so with help from the brakes the operator using the 11 hole drawbar could actually turn corners. Same way a fully mounted 3 point hitch disk could if you could keep front end on ground. I did have a Dad engineered swinging drawbar the worked to let the first a Dunhan then an Oliver drag disk work behind the 1944 2N Dad bought new in May of 44. Used that setup untill Dad bought a 38 JD A in 57 and then a heavier disk.
 
Harry Ferguson teamed up with David Brown to build tractors in 1935 using his patented Ferguson System, the Ferguson/Brown Model A (or the Black tractor).
Unfortunately for DB/HF, they didnt have the manufacturing capacity or dealer network Ferguson felt his hitch/lift deserved, so he went looking for someone who
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