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tim in alaska

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Hello folks I have a 9n with just the lift arms at present. would like to put a trailer hitch on it. In looking at the archives it appears that I think with installation of sway and stay bars the hitch will not go up and down. I see also a reference to hokies contraption . could you please fill me in on the easiest way to accomplish this and I would also like to have the hitch be able to go up and down if possible. thanks in advance to you good folks
 
When I purchased my 8N, some previous owner had made a "hitch" plate that he mounted under the bottom of the tractor. This plate is below the PTO shaft. I have used it many times and it is perfect , with no need to use the lift arms with the drawbar. It sticks out far enough so that it doesn't interfere with the PTO shaft and is always there for use
 
(quoted from post at 02:48:58 05/25/13) When I purchased my 8N, some previous owner had made a "hitch" plate that he mounted under the bottom of the tractor. This plate is below the PTO shaft. I have used it many times and it is perfect , with no need to use the lift arms with the drawbar. It sticks out far enough so that it doesn't interfere with the PTO shaft and is always there for use
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he 9n does not have the mounting holes for a hitch like youa re talking about.

Tim, Normally when you have a trailer on a hitch on these tractors you do not want the hitch to be able to go up. If you are going down a hill the trailer can push the hitch up and lift the rear tires off the ground. IF you use just the draw bar with out the stay bars the hitch will still go up and down, just make sure you don't have steep hills when pulling a trailer.
 

If you are going down a hill and the trailer has a heavy load on it, it will want to push the tractor, with the hitch in raised position it will take the load off the tractor tires. maybe someone with a better understanding of the math involved will chime in.
 
(quoted from post at 13:29:59 05/24/13) Hello folks I have a 9n with just the lift arms at present. would like to put a trailer hitch on it. In looking at the archives it appears that I think with installation of sway and stay bars the hitch will not go up and down. I see also a reference to hokies contraption . could you please fill me in on the easiest way to accomplish this and I would also like to have the hitch be able to go up and down if possible. thanks in advance to you good folks
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My "contraption" will allow you to install the underaxle swinging drawbar and PTO support used on the 8N's, NAA, and Hundred series. Simple as bolting it on to your 9N.

TOH

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That is a nice looking product, Dan.

It should be handy for N series owners that do not have swinging drawbars.

Dean
 
i hope that was a joke :) I never thought your welding was bad?? i've seen planet of the neat items you've fabbed up.. etc.
 
I am a weldiing neophyte, and have added learning the skill to my "list of things to do" at least to the point of cobbleing up needed "on the farm repairs."

Unfortunatley, I have not yet taken the time to practice and continue to hire a professional when something breaks during the perpetual time crunch because I am well aware of my lack of skill in this regard.

Maybe someday.

Dean
 
I bit the bullet a few years ago and bought a semi-real welder. i had a lil 110v 0-70a buzzbox.. but that was really only usefull for sheet metal. had a 15' batwing drop a wing and hinge in the pasture. called a mobile service and when i got the estimate for the farm call, and materials.. I just went out and bought a hobart 235XLAC buzzbox and some steel and rods.. fixed it for about 2/3's the price of the farm call.. and had the welder 'paid for' essentially.

i'll tell you what took me a long time to work up. torches.

I can braze and solder and cut fine. but torch welding is.. well.. lets say I'm glad I have an arc welder.. :)
 
Tim, R. Geiger is right about the 9N not having the holes the 8N
has to mount the regular under axle drawbar.
I bought one of The Old Hokie's adapters for my brother's 9N.
It got here when promised, was well built, bolted right on and is
working perfectly. If you need a solid drawbar, that's the way to go.
If you decide to use a 13 hole across the lift arms, use the stay bars
and sway bars, AND turn your PTO off or strap your lift handle down.
Since the 9N doesn't have position control, only draft (up or down) it will
float if the stay bars aren't there and it will bend the stay bars if they are!
You will also need another device to keep the 13 hole from turning
if you are planning on pulling anything that uses a ball type hitch.
 

I've been doing my own welding for about twenty-five years. I have wanted to learn ever since I started but it is just another one of those things to get to one day. Until then "just crank up the heat" LOL.
 
(quoted from post at 18:31:18 05/24/13) Here is one way that will work on a 9N.
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Tractor Supply sells a similar contraption that keeps a drawbar from trying spin.

The drawbar slips into a rectangular slot on one end , and the other end bolts on to the lower lift arm. I've got for my 9N and use it when I pull a trailer using a ball hitch.
 
(quoted from post at 20:56:42 08/05/21)
(quoted from post at 18:31:18 05/24/13) Here is one way that will work on a 9N.
042-1.jpg
Click to expand...

Tractor Supply sells a similar contraption that keeps a drawbar from trying spin.

The drawbar slips into a rectangular slot on one end , and the other end bolts on to the lower lift arm. I've got for my 9N and use it when I pull a trailer using a ball hitch.
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No similarity.
 
(quoted from post at 02:54:47 08/06/21)
(quoted from post at 20:56:42 08/05/21)
(quoted from post at 18:31:18 05/24/13) Here is one way that will work on a 9N.
042-1.jpg
Click to expand...

Tractor Supply sells a similar contraption that keeps a drawbar from trying spin.

The drawbar slips into a rectangular slot on one end , and the other end bolts on to the lower lift arm. I've got for my 9N and use it when I pull a trailer using a ball hitch.
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No similarity.
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Take a look. Function is the same


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Mad Farmer, Abbey is looking for a mount for a drawbar that comes out from under the axle, which is generally considered far superior to the one like you show which mounts between the two lift arms. There is no possible use for the "no rotate bracket that you pictured.
 
(quoted from post at 11:50:29 08/06/21)

Mad Farmer, Abbey is looking for a mount for a drawbar that comes out from under the axle, which is generally considered far superior to the one like you show which mounts between the two lift arms. There is no possible use for the "no rotate bracket that you pictured.
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I was referring to the picture posted by HCooke.

That drawbar is mounted on the lift arms, I quoted his post.

OP poster mentioned both types of hitch.

I guess showcrop don't believe his own eyes
 
(quoted from post at 18:09:53 05/24/13) Tim, R. Geiger is right about the 9N not having the holes the 8N
has to mount the regular under axle drawbar.
I bought one of The Old Hokie's adapters for my brother's 9N.
It got here when promised, was well built, bolted right on and is
working perfectly. If you need a solid drawbar, that's the way to go.
If you decide to use a 13 hole across the lift arms, use the stay bars
and sway bars, AND turn your PTO off or strap your lift handle down.
Since the 9N doesn't have position control, only draft (up or down) it will
float if the stay bars aren't there and it will bend the stay bars if they are!
You will also need another device to keep the 13 hole from turning
if you are planning on pulling anything that uses a ball type hitch.
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Royse,You are correct! You will also need another device to keep the 13 hole from turning
if you are planning on pulling anything that uses a ball type hitch.
I had s very close freind that I worked with for years ,that was moving some dirt with a old pickup bed trailer going down a very steep hill behind his house with a 600 Ford.He just had the 13 hole draw bar on the lift arms and a 17/8" ball on it ,just sway bars and no stay bars.
Any way the draw bar raised all the way up then the ball twisted out of the hitch coupler when he put the brakes on and the trailer came right up between the fenders KILLING HIM..
So I would never use a ball on a 13 hole draw bar that could even turn any at all.When I was a youngster I had a 2N hooked to the same type of trailer but had sway bars and stay bars both hooked up and lost that trailer when the draw bar turned.luckily I was on flat ground and nothing happened. I made a attachment to stop that,after lost the trailer.I'll get a picture of it sometime and post it on here.
 
(quoted from post at 18:02:42 08/06/21)
(quoted from post at 11:50:29 08/06/21)

Mad Farmer, Abbey is looking for a mount for a drawbar that comes out from under the axle, which is generally considered far superior to the one like you show which mounts between the two lift arms. There is no possible use for the "no rotate bracket that you pictured.
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I was referring to the picture posted by HCooke.

That drawbar is mounted on the lift arms, I quoted his post.

OP poster mentioned both types of hitch.

I guess showcrop don't believe his own eyes
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Mad Farmer, perhaps your confusion comes from the fact that Abbey bumped an 8 year old thread, addressing TOH about his bracket that provides an under-axle drawbar mount. You are responding to another post from eight years ago that is not germane to Abbeys question. Perhaps you could also advise about brand of spark plug and type of fuel filter, LOL.
 
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