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Rabbitrnr

02-22-2021 13:49:16




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The serial number on my 51 8N is not showing up on the flat plate on the block above the starter. What options do I have to find it?




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Rabbitrnr

02-25-2021 04:36:50




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to Rabbitrnr, 02-22-2021 13:49:16  
The gray was selected by the guy that restored it. It is the wrong color but I like it! He was told it was the right color for the year but I am sure he is incorrect.



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8NChris

02-23-2021 12:32:49




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to Rabbitrnr, 02-22-2021 13:49:16  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeIs that the earlier grey used on 9 and 2N tractors? Nice paint and even brake pedals.
You brought up an interesting point. I checked as far as the regional office investigating if I could generate a serial number for mine. So far it doesn't look like Texas offers that option. This morning a Ford tractor collector said he bought an N titled in Pennsylvania. Seems there should be a way to generate a serial number if your state titles tractors.

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tractorguy2

02-23-2021 06:52:49




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to Rabbitrnr, 02-22-2021 13:49:16  
If it's just for the insurance company and you know it's a 51. I would just stamp it myself making sure the number was in the range for the 51 model year.



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Jim L WA

02-23-2021 10:06:55




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to tractorguy2, 02-23-2021 06:52:49  
Tractorguy, that would work as long as he didn't choose a number that was on a stolen tractor list :)



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tractorguy2

02-23-2021 16:23:03




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to Jim L WA, 02-23-2021 10:06:55  
What are the odds of that happening? I don't think 8n's are a high theft item.



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Rabbitrnr

02-23-2021 07:45:43




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to tractorguy2, 02-23-2021 06:52:49  
Here is my Tractor




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8NChris

02-23-2021 06:47:32




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to Rabbitrnr, 02-22-2021 13:49:16  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeThe last time I dealt with serial/vin numbers I had to take the truck to the DMV and then to the state police for different levels of vin inspections. Your N may be a little easier to load and tow than the F-600 was.



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8NChris

02-23-2021 06:35:27




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to Rabbitrnr, 02-22-2021 13:49:16  
You don't have anything to explain. I am curious in a situation like this if you can generate your own serial number? It has been done with home made trailers.



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Rabbitrnr

02-23-2021 06:26:13




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to Rabbitrnr, 02-22-2021 13:49:16  
Yes, The serial number means little to me but I have restored the tractor and want to insure it. The Insurance company is requiring it.



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Kirk-NJ

02-25-2021 03:38:43




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to Rabbitrnr, 02-23-2021 06:26:13  
If you don't have numbers located on the flat spot than you have a blank canvas. Buy a set of stamps and hand stamp in yourself.



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Rabbitrnr

02-23-2021 06:07:45




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to Rabbitrnr, 02-22-2021 13:49:16  
Yes,

I have the plate located yet there are no numbers visible



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Tim PloughNman Daley

02-23-2021 05:40:11




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to Rabbitrnr, 02-22-2021 13:49:16  
Why? Are you looking for a Date Code ID tag on the starter pocket? Serial numbers were different and only on the boss by oil filter. Serila nubers mean nothing anyway. N's never had the s/n on the battery tray. The engine block serial number was only stamped in one place as shown. The statement that engines were left blank to replace dealers with is also false. Engine blocks were made, tested, and then stamped a certain way. None were left blank -that is a myth. The starter pocket later added a DATE CODE ID TAG WHICH ONLY DESIGNATES THE DATE THE BLOCK WAS CAST. The hydraulic pump bottom and axle housings may have a date code tag as well. NOTE an ID TAG and a serial number are not the same. ID tags are applied on the casting when it is made. A=JAN, B=FEB, etc. "I167" defines SEP 16 1947 as casting date. S/N is only hand stamped after engine is assembled, tested, and passed by QC Inspection 30 days after cast. HYD pump base and axles may have date codes as well. Again I say, do not put much into serial numbers. Unless you have a very early model that you are going to restore all original, forget about serial numbers. Engines can be and were swapped out often when a blown engine was swapped out. You could have a 9N block in and early 8N tractor and vice versa. Concern yourself with the important criteria like 3-SPD or 4-SPD Trans, Front Mount Distributor, Steering Box, Charging System -6V or 12V, and more. 9N/2N Models were different than the early 8N even though the blocks were the same. Even when Ford went with the angle mount distributor on the later 8N in 1950, forget get a s/n -means nothing as system was the same til SEP 1952. Add too the fact that it only matters what YOU have on YOUR tractor as parts got changed and switched by owners often. having the MPC and essential manuals are your best friends.


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Kirk-NJ

02-23-2021 03:23:57




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to Rabbitrnr, 02-22-2021 13:49:16  
Check under your battery tray.



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Shaun Wallace

02-23-2021 14:27:48




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to Kirk-NJ, 02-23-2021 03:23:57  
That plate on clutch hsg was used on power units. Power units have made their way into Ns as replacement engines.



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Paul Ct

02-22-2021 14:21:29




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to Rabbitrnr, 02-22-2021 13:49:16  
Replacement blocks/engines often were not stamped. Sometimes the dealer would stamp the old (replaced engine's) serial number on the new block.



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JBTech

02-22-2021 14:05:32




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to Rabbitrnr, 02-22-2021 13:49:16  
Look into what years the serial numbers were on the block. I Don't remember off the top of my head, but their are several resources available that explain locations.



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Royse

02-22-2021 14:01:08




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 Re: Serial Number Missing in reply to Rabbitrnr, 02-22-2021 13:49:16  
On an N series, it would be on a flat spot just below the head,

on the left side of the engine block, near the oil filter housing.



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