Identifying a Sherman Transmission 9n, 2n, 8n (Continued)

Well even though me and my wife decided that we'll most likely not buy this add-on transmission since it is located so far away and so leaves too many things that can end up turning out bad, we still want to see if it can definitely be identified.

Here are some pics which now show the transmission (Sherman step-up or step-down?) mounted inside the main transmission housing.

I was hoping that there would still be the original paint on it to help in identifying but even after blowing up and auto-correcting these pics, we still didn't happen to see any traces of paint left....unless there is what could be some grey but not sure.

Hope these pics are enough for those pros out there to make heads or tales or it but seems like it won't matter since from what I've heard, the Sherman step-up and the step-down
transmission has the same outer design/casting but please correct me if I'm wrong

K-n-L,From what I see in your pictures that is a Gray Sherman Step-up
transmission.Gray on the front and bottom.

Since most people don't repaint their sherman it appears to be a step up, as Den has said. I would bet that if you wiped some
of the greasey oil of the side of the case there would probably still be parts of the original step-up decal.

Kirk

I don't know which one it is but the last 2 I scrapped had 1 that looked just like that.

(quoted from post at 07:42:58 01/13/16) I don't know which one it is but the last 2 I scrapped had 1 that looked just like that.

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You did what :shock:

Well hopefully after what you find from researching these Sherman and other add-on transmissions, you won't scrap them even if they're broke....the parts are still valuable

Sherman combo (step-up step-down) transmission for the most part actually sells between 550.00-700.00 and some over eager buyers will pay more for them. Can go on ebay craigslist and other sites to see these transmission listed for 900-1000.00 but I have yet to see over the past year that anybody is actually buying them for that price. Big difference in what something is listed for and what cost it actually gets sold for. Also gotta keep in mind that paying 900.00-1000.00 for one will only raise the value of your tractor by approx 500.00 and so the purchase is base on more of the usefulness of what can be gotten out of the tractor having the add-on transmission

I personally have only seen Sherman step-up transmissions sell for between 75.00-225.00. The lower cost is due to not many people need their tractor to go any faster than what the manufacture made it to do. I have a F&T step up transmission and WOW does that thing fly when it is engaged! Has no benefits on our several acres of land and so it is like what others have said how the step-up was purposed more for farmers who had LONG distances to cross to get out to their fields where the real work needed done.

Besides long distances, the step-up had value for the pto speed. If the tractor was hooked up to run a pump, generator, auger, or any other fixed pto use, the engine could run at a lower speed and still keep the pto at 540. Saves gas and wear and tear when it's running all day long. Most guys who buy them today are interested in "tractor rides" where groups cover many miles on their antique tractors. You really need a step-up for tractor rides.

(quoted from post at 09:11:46 01/13/16) Besides long distances, the step-up had value for the pto speed. If the tractor was hooked up to run a pump, generator, auger, or any other fixed pto use, the engine could run at a lower speed and still keep the pto at 540. Saves gas and wear and tear when it's running all day long. Most guys who buy them today are interested in "tractor rides" where groups cover many miles on their antique tractors. You really need a step-up for tractor rides.

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You made a good point. I should have took into consideration the many attachments that were used on the tractor which needed the pto to work them. Maybe even the portable sawmill was one such attachment that users would want to run it at a higher speed. Not sure and something interesting to research

So do you have any input on what Sherman transmission is in the pictures? I have become a bit dependent on what you, kirk, and a couple others have to say since these transmissions seem to have very little documentation to them compared to other things that were put on the tractors.

It's a Sherman step-up.

(quoted from post at 20:07:55 01/12/16) Well even though me and my wife decided that we'll most likely not buy this add-on transmission since it is located so far away and so leaves too many things that can end up turning out bad, we still want to see if it can definitely be identified.

Here are some pics which now show the transmission (Sherman step-up or step-down?) mounted inside the main transmission housing.

I was hoping that there would still be the original paint on it to help in identifying but even after blowing up and auto-correcting these pics, we still didn't happen to see any traces of paint left....unless there is what could be some grey but not sure.

Hope these pics are enough for those pros out there to make heads or tales or it but seems like it won't matter since from what I've heard, the Sherman step-up and the step-down
transmission has the same outer design/casting but please correct me if I'm wrong

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hotobucket got me to. A few questions to help a web browser decide if the drive is worth the chance.
Thank's

Does anyone have photos?

Do the left side lever design changes have any meaning?

Is a right hand handle always an F&T overdrive?

Are cable operated step up only?

John Smith's - Tractorbynet has some good information. Below is what I have gathered from the public photo, description and brochure.

Sherman's with the long looped handle behind the left pitman arm have a low gear. Step Down and the Hi/Lo Combination share this handle and it's location.

Step Up have the shifter lever shaft under the battery box with a long slight bent handle on the left.

Early Step Up also has a cable shift that exists the bell housing right side next to the battery box. The knob is in the dash on the right. *(I have never used or seen one, it seems the cable and knob position could vary slightly per installer)*

F&T Overdrive had a short handle below the dash on the right.

As for other over/under drive transmissions the rest of the pages information is reserved for registered user's.

(quoted from post at 01:21:41 09/13/20) John Smith's - Tractorbynet has some good information. Below is what I have gathered from the public photo, description and brochure.

Sherman's with the long looped handle behind the left pitman arm have a low gear. Step Down and the Hi/Lo Combination share this handle and it's location.

Step Up have the shifter lever shaft under the battery box with a long slight bent handle on the left.

Early Step Up also has a cable shift that exists the bell housing right side next to the battery box. The knob is in the dash on the right. *(I have never used or seen one, it seems the cable and knob position could vary slightly per installer)*

F&T Overdrive had a short handle below the dash on the right.

As for other over/under drive transmissions the rest of the pages information is reserved for registered user's.

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aybe there was more than one handle for the Low range.

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