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Tractor wonít even turn over

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Jdawg88

08-05-2020 12:27:14




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Hello all, Iíve been getting pretty frustrated because my Ford 2n tractor wonít even turnover. I took the starter out and tried jumping the starter with it out and the starter comes to life. When I put it back in, I turned the key, and it turned for a second and wonít turn now..... Is it a bad starter? Something wrong with the grounding of the starter when itís in? Help please




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Left Coast Geek

08-06-2020 19:52:30




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 Re: Tractor won t even turn over in reply to Jdawg88, 08-05-2020 12:27:14  
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maybe the solenoid isn't working? is it a 4 terminal or a 3 terminal solenoid? the 3 terminal solenoids, the starter switch goes to ground, but most automotive ignition keys, the starter switch goes to +12V. with a 4-terminal, you can wire it either way... either +12V -> solenoid side terminal, other solenoid side terminal -> switch -> ground, OR, +12V -> starter switch -> solenoid side terminal 1, other side terminal to ground.

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Tim PloughNman Daley

08-06-2020 07:34:58




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 Re: Tractor wonít even turn over in reply to Jdawg88, 08-05-2020 12:27:14  
Why wouldn't you remove the starter motor and simply motor test it? (2-1/2% of all non-starting issues are electrical and due to mucked up wiring. I'd say start with testing the battery at a shop. While power disconnected verify the wiring is all correct. Is the system OEM 6V or did you switch out to 12V? Is the OEM Ballast Resistor in the circuit regardless if 6V or 12V - it is required for both. You can start with Essential Manuals. Parts, Service, and Owner Manuals are required tools. Once YOU know what you are dealing with, tell us more.


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Orion231

08-05-2020 16:26:41




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 Re: Tractor won t even turn over in reply to Jdawg88, 08-05-2020 12:27:14  
Battery Voltage is a little low if fully charged. You might try jumper cables to make sure you have enough to turn it over and that the voltage isn't dropping like a rock when you hit the starter. Taking the plugs out is a good idea until you get it turning over easily...



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Jdawg88

08-05-2020 16:34:04




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 Re: Tractor won t even turn over in reply to Orion231, 08-05-2020 16:26:41  
The battery voltage is actually around 12.78 and it doesnít really drop when jumping the tractor because itís practically brand new. But I think itís the starter after all! Thanks for the help!



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Den N Ms

08-05-2020 16:02:00




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 Re: Tractor won t even turn over in reply to Jdawg88, 08-05-2020 12:27:14  
Jdawg88,The armatute could have a dead spot and could be bad,just happened to stop on that spot,



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Jdawg88

08-05-2020 16:30:36




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 Re: Tractor won t even turn over in reply to Den N Ms, 08-05-2020 16:02:00  
I think that you are right. I pulled it out again and tried jumping the starter again and it wouldnít run. I do think itís a bad starter after all.... I was hoping that it would be something cheaper.



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Den N Ms

08-05-2020 13:21:16




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 Re: Tractor won t even turn over in reply to Jdawg88, 08-05-2020 12:27:14  
Jdawg88,The start switch could be bad at the bottom of the steering column in the front . To test it You might try and jump the two terminals out of gear in NEUTRAL! with a old screwdriver and see if it starts or turns the engine over.No starter run,starter is bad if the battery is fully charged .



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Jdawg88

08-05-2020 13:39:28




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 Re: Tractor won t even turn over in reply to Den N Ms, 08-05-2020 13:21:16  
I bought this tractor about 9 years ago and someone had converted the tractor to 12 volt and by-passed the push start with an ignition switch that has a start on it. I took the starter out and to hold it together I put nuts on the bolts, then I used jumper cables To see if it would work. It did quite well. I put it back in the tractor and now Iím trying to jump the starter in place but I donít even get a spark. Battery is charged, been checking it with a voltmeter. I put the jumper cables directly to the starter and not even a spark.... maybe Iíll pull it back out and try it again?

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HCooke

08-05-2020 13:14:37




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 Re: Tractor wonít even turn over in reply to Jdawg88, 08-05-2020 12:27:14  
Check battery for full charge.

Other possible issue - gas got left on and drained into cylinders causing hydrolock. Pull spark plug and try to turn it over.



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Jdawg88

08-05-2020 13:21:15




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 Re: Tractor wonít even turn over in reply to HCooke, 08-05-2020 13:14:37  
If itís hydrolocked would I be able to turn the engine over by hand? I can turn the engine by pulling the belt.
The battery is also fully charged, itís reading 12.7 volts.



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HCooke

08-06-2020 15:42:18




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 Re: Tractor wonít even turn over in reply to Jdawg88, 08-05-2020 13:21:15  
OK problem is elsewhere. Can you jump the starter motor (tractor in neutral?



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