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shaun wallace
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Its one of the rear battery box bolts. Rite hand I think.
Tim PloughNman Daley RIP
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FORD 8N STEERING BOX LUBE PORTS:
- LATE STEERING BOX -
- 8N EARLY STEERING BOX -
TIM DALEY’S MODIFIED LUBE FITTINGS:
NOTE: Early Box uses ¼ NPT Pipe Plug; Late Box uses 7/16 hex bolt. Both I modified with a Zerk fitting to allow easier lube insertion. I use 00 Cornhead Grease
Tim Daley(MI)
- LATE STEERING BOX -
- 8N EARLY STEERING BOX -
TIM DALEY’S MODIFIED LUBE FITTINGS:
NOTE: Early Box uses ¼ NPT Pipe Plug; Late Box uses 7/16 hex bolt. Both I modified with a Zerk fitting to allow easier lube insertion. I use 00 Cornhead Grease
Tim Daley(MI)
Hi Shaun,
I have removed bolts from battery box and bolts on side of housing. Still unable to find the fill port. The tractor is 15 miles from our shop. using it with a bushhog to keep a field cut. Will wait until we bring the tractor home and start removing things to find the fill port.
Chris
I have removed bolts from battery box and bolts on side of housing. Still unable to find the fill port. The tractor is 15 miles from our shop. using it with a bushhog to keep a field cut. Will wait until we bring the tractor home and start removing things to find the fill port.
Chris
deanostoybox
Member
Late 52 has a large pan head screw on the front of the steering column above the hood and below the steering wheel. If yours has that screw that is where you put the oil.
deanostoybox
Member
One other possibility comes to mind. If you have an aftermarket steering gearbox (Sparex) the oil fill plug is hidden under the dash mounting "saddle" centered 1-13/16" above the lower dash mounting bolt on the left side. You need to make a hole there or remove the dash to access it.
Dean,
I have owned the tractor for 10 years. I am sure it is an 8N. Has the distributor on the side now in front. I thought it was a 52. Have looked throughly at sides of the gear box and have included pictures of the tractor, steering, and gear box. No screw above hood and below steering wheel.
Chris Looks like I wlll need to remove the dash and dash support. Certainly this was not the way Ford Motor Company originally designed the tractor to check the steering box and add oil. Very easy to locate the fill point on our 1953 ford jubilee. Any other ideas you have would be appreciated.
Chris
I have owned the tractor for 10 years. I am sure it is an 8N. Has the distributor on the side now in front. I thought it was a 52. Have looked throughly at sides of the gear box and have included pictures of the tractor, steering, and gear box. No screw above hood and below steering wheel.
Chris Looks like I wlll need to remove the dash and dash support. Certainly this was not the way Ford Motor Company originally designed the tractor to check the steering box and add oil. Very easy to locate the fill point on our 1953 ford jubilee. Any other ideas you have would be appreciated.
Chris
Deanostoybox,
I bought the tractor used some time ago. Do not know what the previous owner might have had done to the tractor. He is deceased now. I Think I will have to remove the dash to access the the oil port for the steering box
Chris
Thank you for the reply
I bought the tractor used some time ago. Do not know what the previous owner might have had done to the tractor. He is deceased now. I Think I will have to remove the dash to access the the oil port for the steering box
Chris
Thank you for the reply
Btzj02
Member
In any event, the fill plug is a bolt attaching the battery box (IIRC) on the right side to the steering gear.
Dean[/quote]
FYI After removing the bolt you cannot tell that it is where you add oil. I used a plastic tube to stick in the threaded bolt hole and attached the tube to the lube oil bottle nipple. Keep filling till it over flows!
JB
Dean[/quote]
FYI After removing the bolt you cannot tell that it is where you add oil. I used a plastic tube to stick in the threaded bolt hole and attached the tube to the lube oil bottle nipple. Keep filling till it over flows!
JB
Tim PloughNman Daley RIP
Well-known Member
Did you see my post with pictures below??? You show the air cleaner mounting bolt -NOT the lube bolt.
TPD
TPD
Tim,
Yes, I did see the picture You sent, thank you. Removed the proofmeter and removed the bolt that picture you sent has a zerk fitting in it. Put the pointed end of my 80-90 plastic container in the bolt hole and was unable to get oil through the bolt hole to the steering box. Will take a small wire from my shop and check to see if the bolt hole goes into the steering box
Yes, I did see the picture You sent, thank you. Removed the proofmeter and removed the bolt that picture you sent has a zerk fitting in it. Put the pointed end of my 80-90 plastic container in the bolt hole and was unable to get oil through the bolt hole to the steering box. Will take a small wire from my shop and check to see if the bolt hole goes into the steering box
Btzj02
Member
At the lake and cannot take a picture of my 51. If you use a plastic tube to fill I found it helpful to cut off about quarter inch of the bottom half of the end of the tube. That way you can push the tube all the way in the hole untill it bottoms out and the oil can still come out the bottom cut into the fill hole.
JB
JB,
Sending a digital picture of bolt I think is removed to add gear oil to the steering box. Removed the rpm meter: Put end of my gear oil tube in the hole. Oil
jusst runs out. Probably need to try what you said about using a plastic tube and cutting end off the tube. Is this the bolt you removed from your 8N to add oil
to steering box?
Thanks Chris
Sending a digital picture of bolt I think is removed to add gear oil to the steering box. Removed the rpm meter: Put end of my gear oil tube in the hole. Oil
jusst runs out. Probably need to try what you said about using a plastic tube and cutting end off the tube. Is this the bolt you removed from your 8N to add oil
to steering box?
Thanks Chris
Hi Tim,
Including a picture of the bolt I think you removed to add oil to the geacase on an 8N. Put the tiny end of my quart { outboard lower unit style for addinging to the gearcase on an ouatboard} 80 90 wt just runs out the hole. is this the correct place to add oil?
Including a picture of the bolt I think you removed to add oil to the geacase on an 8N. Put the tiny end of my quart { outboard lower unit style for addinging to the gearcase on an ouatboard} 80 90 wt just runs out the hole. is this the correct place to add oil?
Great topic!
I have two 8N "Operator's Manual"s. Both indicate some point on the right side of the battery box area (right when sitting in the seat), but are not specific about that point. The FO-4 manual is equally vague.
Can someone indicate exactly which bolt needs to be used? A picture would be awesome!
Thank you!
I have two 8N "Operator's Manual"s. Both indicate some point on the right side of the battery box area (right when sitting in the seat), but are not specific about that point. The FO-4 manual is equally vague.
Can someone indicate exactly which bolt needs to be used? A picture would be awesome!
Thank you!
On later 8n right side behind the proofmeter.
The spare column is just sitting on the rear of the tractor for the pic. Oil flowes through the bolt hole following the blue line. It has to make a 90 deg bend into a smaller passage, before draining into the sump.
I haven't tried filling recently, but would expect it to be a slow process.
John
The spare column is just sitting on the rear of the tractor for the pic. Oil flowes through the bolt hole following the blue line. It has to make a 90 deg bend into a smaller passage, before draining into the sump.
I haven't tried filling recently, but would expect it to be a slow process.
John
Hunkydory,
I have looked at a lot of informationr= regarding putting oil in the steering gearbox on an 8N. At one time there was a removable screw on the steering column
to add oil. Screw was below the steering wheel. 8N we have does not have the screw. Picture included seems to be the screw that is removed to add oil .
saw one picture with a zerk fitting in the bolt. I would think using a grease gun would put a lot of pressure on seals in the steering gear. At present we are
using our 8N with a bushhog to cut grass in a field. Will wait until we get the tractor home prior to taking things apart. Steering gear is working good on our 8N
. I just wanted to check oil in the steering gear box
I have looked at a lot of informationr= regarding putting oil in the steering gearbox on an 8N. At one time there was a removable screw on the steering column
to add oil. Screw was below the steering wheel. 8N we have does not have the screw. Picture included seems to be the screw that is removed to add oil .
saw one picture with a zerk fitting in the bolt. I would think using a grease gun would put a lot of pressure on seals in the steering gear. At present we are
using our 8N with a bushhog to cut grass in a field. Will wait until we get the tractor home prior to taking things apart. Steering gear is working good on our 8N
. I just wanted to check oil in the steering gear box
John & ejensen,
Thank you for the visual explanations! I've found what you refer to as the oil inlet. It appears to be a mount point for the instrument panel support. I'll pull that bolt and feel around inside.
The oil exit John explained is baffling. I have an early 1950 8N with front mount distributor and my column does not seem to have that drain plug.
Have you any idea where it may be?
Many thanks!
Hi hunkydory, when trying to show the
oil exit hole, I just unbolted the upper
part, took the pic, and added the blue
line. Here is the whole column. The exit
hole is not visable when assembled, it's
on the inside.
I see on John Smiths oldford tractor web
site, in 1949 the steering box was
changed at serial number 216989.
Do you have the newer one?
John
oil exit hole, I just unbolted the upper
part, took the pic, and added the blue
line. Here is the whole column. The exit
hole is not visable when assembled, it's
on the inside.
I see on John Smiths oldford tractor web
site, in 1949 the steering box was
changed at serial number 216989.
Do you have the newer one?
John
Hi John,
Thank you for taking the time! I really appreciate your patience with a newbie.
Looking at that site I have the "'49-'52 8N steering box". I take it the procedure is to add fluid until it comes back out the entry hole? No way to drain it without removing the steering column?
Thanks again,
Alan
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