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Rear Wheel Mount

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dactura

06-24-2020 18:33:49




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I just finished putting the new axle in, the shims, seals and all of that stuff. The last task is to put the wheel back on. It has a wheel weight and is also filled with water... so it's very heavy. I spent an hour struggling with it with no success. It's just me and the tractor. I have no one to help. Exhausted, I will try again tomorrow.
Does anyone have a clever way to put the wheel back on?

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showcrop

06-26-2020 15:26:58




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 Re: Rear Wheel Mount in reply to dactura, 06-24-2020 18:33:49  
Glad the pry bar was a help.



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dactura

06-26-2020 08:21:11




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 Re: Rear Wheel Mount in reply to dactura, 06-24-2020 18:33:49  
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Victory!

I used Dean's method - only rather than the exciting bottle jack technique, I used a floor jack and stacked blocks until the height of the lugs was optimal. I used big blocks on the bottom and a piece of 3/8" plywood to get the height correct. This takes a bit longer, but whatever it takes cannot be longer than the 3 days I've been fighting this thing.

I also put the tractor in neutral so that I could turn the drum to line up the bolts. (This is probably the best advice - and probably so obvious to everyone else.)

I then wrangled the tire up to the lugs and used my inferior pry bar and didn't even have to watch because I could hear the sound of the lugs going through the holes and see a good 1/2 inch to put on the lugs.

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showcrop

06-26-2020 06:28:58




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 Re: Rear Wheel Mount in reply to dactura, 06-24-2020 18:33:49  
I use a bar to make fine adjustments to the tire position just as they do at the tire store. You need a bar with a pointed end and a thick point a few inches back from the tip. Jab it under, then using the thick part as a fulcrum you can move it side to side easily as the guy at the tire store does.



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dactura

06-25-2020 18:41:16




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 Re: Rear Wheel Mount in reply to dactura, 06-24-2020 18:33:49  
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I cannot disagree with that! You Tractor Gurus are national treasures and the salt of the earth. I struggled for 3 hours this morning and gave up after the heat and other business tore me away from my little project. I have meditated upon the problem while driving to Ukiah. I have come up with a secret plan which (if it works) I will share with the world in a subsequent post. :D

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Dean

06-25-2020 10:31:35




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 Re: Rear Wheel Mount in reply to dactura, 06-24-2020 18:33:49  
I've done so multiple times unassisted.

YES, one must be careful.

I position a bottle jack within reach on the side that I am working such that I can reach both valve and handle while handling the wheel/tire assembly. I usually position the jack beneath the nearest side of the swinging drawbar bracket but other suitable places exist.

The transmission must be in neutral and the brakes must be loose enough such that you can turn the brake drum with one hand.

Position the wheel tire assembly in approximate position such that it can be wiggled to final horizontal position. No need to index the wheel tire, simply rotate the brake drum. Use the bottle jack to fine adjust height.

Yes, you must be careful.

Not sure of the weight system that you have but you may consider removing it.

Dean

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Angus Thom

06-25-2020 07:39:20




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 Re: Rear Wheel Mount in reply to dactura, 06-24-2020 18:33:49  
Admittably my tire had no weights or filling . . . I placed a 2 x 2 piece of quartz kitchen counter top below the axle, added a bit of lubricant and then set another smooth surfaced item on top (it was a piece of shower stall wall) - then roll wheel ontop of that setup - and now able to make small slip/slide/manoevers of wheel a little easier. Then it was a case of small adjustments of jack and lugs to get things aligned and then slide wheel inwards untill I got a lugnut to bite.

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dactura

06-25-2020 05:52:25




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 Re: Rear Wheel Mount in reply to dactura, 06-24-2020 18:33:49  
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Thank you tractor buddies! I do have the tire standing up and move it slowly with all the respect due to an object that will break my legs if I am not thoughtful in my moves.

I was doing the floor jack thing last night. I'll continue that task; but rig something up to keep it from falling down as suggested. Most helpful are you guys who have done it... so if you did it, so can I. :D

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Ultradog MN

06-25-2020 17:36:54




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 Re: Rear Wheel Mount in reply to dactura, 06-25-2020 05:52:25  
"so if you did it, so can I"

That's the spirit that built these great old tractors in the first place.



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flembo

06-25-2020 05:29:47




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 Re: Rear Wheel Mount in reply to dactura, 06-24-2020 18:33:49  
I just replaced a Rear hub on my 8n and man handled the loaded tire rim and center by myself being careful to keep it upright at all times. I had a floor jack under the axle to raise or lower it as needed just as U.D. described.



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Ultradog MN

06-24-2020 22:26:36




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 Re: Rear Wheel Mount in reply to dactura, 06-24-2020 18:33:49  
If the tires are laying down you can not lift them by hand. You will need equipment to stand them up.
If they are standing up you CAN do it.

"Plan your work and work your plan."

On Tuesday I put these rims and tires back on my tractor alone.
It had been sitting on stands for over a year.
13.6x38 - rims, tires, centers. They are loaded with CaCl. Probably about 800 lbs per tire.
I leaned them against the garage door frame with the loader tractor. Then I had to roll them about 25' back to where the tractor sits by hand.
Easy does it. No mistakes. Have an escape plan. Don't scratch the pretty new paint either!
Before I rolled them back I hung a little chainfall from the rafters above the axles. It would not lift the tires but would keep them upright while I maneuvered the tire around and raised/lowered the axle with a floor jack to get a couple of lug nuts on.
I knew I could do it if I tried.
So I tried.


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Bruce(OR)

06-24-2020 22:14:23




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 Re: Rear Wheel Mount in reply to dactura, 06-24-2020 18:33:49  
Next time stand it up with a 2X4 to lean on. Now it's on the ground, like was suggested, drain it. I know. The stem is facing the ground.
Don't know what equipment you have or the depths of your pockets, age or strength. I picked mine up. Once. Then took three days for the back pains to stop. I had two tires. It took a week. I now have deeper pockets and more equipment with a loss of strength. 6 foot long steel pry bar is about $30. A few cinder blocks to get it up on and a leverage point might also come in handy.
Careful what your doing. Got a tree and rope? I recently had fun with a free rolling 600 pound filled wheel/tire. I won't do that again.

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R Geiger

06-24-2020 18:48:02




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 Re: Rear Wheel Mount in reply to dactura, 06-24-2020 18:33:49  
Drain it first and then refill if needed, also cherry picker engine hoist.



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