Help identifying Tractor year, Engine, etc

Mmorrison111

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Hello!! My husband and I acquired this Ford 8N from a family friend, we don't know much about it, we need help identifying year, engine, etc for parts!!!! We need a thermostat, exhaust manifold is broken at the flange. Help!!!
 
Mmorrison111,Welcome to the best N Ford tractor site
ever.HFJ gave you the correct year and a great link to
John Smith's old site.The parts that you need are
available right here on this great site.
Maanifol

Thermostat
 
(quoted from post at 09:25:37 02/28/20) You have to make several posts before the system will allow you to post pictures.

Yes but. Put the pictures on an image hosting site like IMGUR and you can post from the git-go.

TOH
 
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HERE IS THE MANIFOLD - THIS DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THE PICTURE YOU LINKED?
 
Can you please post a picture of both the right and left side of tractor? Frame the picture to include steering wheel to head lights. Thanks.
 
Do not buy any parts until you find out what you have, It is not a normal N tractor. does look like a 6 cylinder motor.
 
The original four cylinder engine has been replaced with a six cylinder. There was an aftermarket kit made in the fifties to put an industrial Ford six cylinder into the 8n.
 
(quoted from post at 12:29:47 02/28/20)

HERE IS THE MANIFOLD - THIS DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THE PICTURE YOU LINKED?

that's because, as others have said, that's not the original engine for a ford N tractor. as such, please disregard my reference to a 1948 tractor, as the serial number - assuming that's what it is - is not a ford N serial number. ford N serial numbers are stamped on the engine and only refer to the engine,. not to the rest of the tractor.

and the manifold, and likely the thermostat too, will have nothing to do with a ford N tractor, but rather with the replacement engine yours has.

however, the site i linked u to will still be helpful in determining the year of the tractor itself. the engine u have is another matter entirely.
 
Hit the link for the thermostat. You likely have a flathead 226 industrial motor or could also possibly be a 254, but I doubt it. The 215 Sean mention is an over head valve used
in later funks. The industrial manifold will be hard to find because unlike the 226 truck manifold it is straight across not on an angle like the truck one is. People have used
the truck manifold and have shimmed the carb to make it sit level. I am not sure that the truck manifold dumps it the same spot as the industrial manifold so the rest of the
exhaust system might need to be altered. I would try to have the one you have repaired cause you will be looking long and hard to find a correct replacement and if you do won't
be cheap.
Thermostat link
 
Greetings to you and your husband and your new Ford 8N Tractor. I think you have to be a member for a while before you can post pictures -maybe not, check admins rules. The most important tool you can invest in now is to get copies of the Essential Manuals and read religiously. The OEM Owner's manual, the 39-53 MPC (Master Parts Catalog), the I&T FO-4 Manual, and a Dennis Carpenter Parts catalog, are required reading for any N owner. There are differences between the 9N/2N Model and the 8N Model so be sure you ID it correctly first. The serial number only IDs the engine block and not that important. You say you have s/n 8812 so if so that would be and early 8N BUT, are you looking in the right place? That number sound like a casting number. So, eschew the s/n and go by this identifiable criteria. ALL 9N & 2N Models have a 3-SPD trans; DRAFT CONTROL ONLY, and a front mount distributor to name few important items. ALL early 8Ns have a 4-speed tarns, a front mount distributor, and POSITION CONTROL as well as DRAFT CONTROL. After 1950 all 8Ns used the angle mount distributor. So, bear in mind that s/n's only are relevant if you have an early 9N or early 8N you are restoring to all original. Other than that they mean little and here's why: The serial number only ID's the ENGINE block as to when it was passed in QC Inspection, not the entire tractor though Ford engine blocks were also intended to be used as the model s/n too, BUT engines got swapped out often. ALL 9N,2N and early 8N serial numbers had a STAR (*) symbol in the prefix and suffix to designate steel cylinder liners were installed. When the Ford 8N revamped the distributor to the RH side (mid-1950) as the angle mount, the generator also got revamped and moved to the LH side and the blocks started using cast iron sleeves. The block s/n's then used a diamond (<>) symbol in the prefix and suffix to designate cast iron sleeves. Today it is a moot point because they no longer make steel liners, only cast iron. Engines have been swapped out over the years so this is another reason why a s/n is unimportant. There are 9N/2N models with 8N blocks and 8N blocks with 9N/2N blocks so a s/n is a moot point. Go by the critical components to better ID what you have. It is also critical that you know what electrical system your tractor is using. The OEM Ford electrical systems were all 6-VOLT/POSITIVE GROUND. Many got switched over to a 12V system. Either way if it isn't wired correctly you will have issues, non-staring the main one. Just because you a have a 6V battery or a 12V battery does not guarantee the system is wired correctly. Don't just start replacing parts before knowing if old are defective. The manuals will also help you understand your tractor better and how to safely operate it.

FORD N-SERIES TRACTOR SERIAL NUMBER LOCATION:
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*NOTE: ALL 8N Models have the '8N' prefix at the beginning of the s/n. All early 8N's with the front mount have the STAR symbol before after the s/n. All later 8Ns with the side mount use the DIAMOND symbol.

FORD 8N TRACTOR ESSENTIAL OWNER/OPERATOR/PARTS/SERVICE MANUALS:
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FORD TRACTOR INFORMATION & FREE DOWNLOADS:
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FORD 8N TRACTOR (early/front mount) WIRING DIAGRAM:
PRIOR TO S/N 8N-263844:
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8N WIRING AFTER S/N 8N-263844 WITH ANGLE (SIDE) MOUNT DISTRIBUTOR:
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Tim *PloughNman* Daley(MI)
 

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