Early 9n value

so...how many smooth rear axle 9ns were made?...without aluminium grills and hoods...are they worth any more than their later axle counterparts?

I doubt there will be a big difference in price, unless a collector needed parts. Mine is a 1940, with one smooth axle and one riveted. I know mine isn?t the only one that broke an axle sometime over the past 79 years.

Jerry

HiYa Ed-
That's the million dollar question. In my opinion an all original correct early/1939 9N is priceless. I know of only one like that, unrestored, aluminum hood early 3-digit s/n with ALL the original correct parts including the 7 x 32 6-Loop rear rims, 9N-A generator with voltage regulator, snap-in battery/gas access door, and more. In the past ten or twenty years there have been several early 9N's for sale on the popular auction sites like MECUMS and they've ALL sold for around $30k and every one has had at least one incorrect early 9N parts on it. Heck one even had a 12V convulsion done to it. there was a recent one that came close, I think I could see only one part that wasn't right. Simply having a smooth axle does not qualify one as a completely original early 9N. Value is a misnomer, a loosely used term, and is whatever a buyer is willing to pay, hence the big buck auction sellers. Big collectors tend to be rich fellas with nothing better to do so they start buying antique vehicles and have other people restore them so they can brag about how they have an early such and such car, truck, or tractor in their collection. Often the "restorer" doesn't really know what is correct and what isn't and bases his job on books (which also can be wrong)and what other misinformed guys have told him. Then the divorce comes along and the MECUM auction guys step in and they don't have clue either using the same people the restorers used and books and other misguided info. There are a few guys I know with correctly done early 9Ns but they all have one or two parts missing. Some have been for sale too but nowhere near the high dollar MECUM ones, and some are still for sale as the market just isn't there anymore. Not only early 9N's but the entire antique tractor and implement market is down and has been down and may not ever recover. For example, a basic standard 8N tractor used to sell for about $2500 - $3500 and may include a back blade and/or mower. The average price of that same 8N geos for on average $1200 - $1800. I helped a guy restore his early 9N, lived several states over, had an early 4-digit s/n so no aluminum hood. I sold him a few correct early 9N parts I had collected and directed him to the correct parts of what I didn't have and he found elsewhere. He finished the project then hard times hit and he lost his job. He was forced to sell his tractor collection, he also had a 2N warhorse I also helped direct him to the correct the parts and sold him some of those parts too. The 2N warhorse went to auction for $1200 and the early 9N went for $1800. Timing is everything - right time, right place -and you can find deals. See?

Tim *PloughNman* Daley(MI)

Thank you very kindly Tim..
a lot of great thought and information!