N draft spring

It is a myth that water get in there, but if you want to keep it dry and you can not park it under cover, throw a tarp over it. Water gets in via condensation.
 
(quoted from post at 14:07:52 09/20/19) It is a myth that water get in there, but if you want to keep it dry and you can not park it under cover, throw a tarp over it. Water gets in via condensation.
personally wouldn't go so far as to call it a "myth", but might concede that condensation is a source, maybe the greater source? There is nothing to prevent water from entering at the draft plunger opening. There is opportunity at gear shift also if the rubber boot isn't in good condition (probably more not good that good shift boots out there).
 
Well, both of my 8n's sit under cover and I never work them in the rain, and they still get water in the trans and engine as far that that goes. if the felt washer is there it should stop rain from getting in. I thought someone a few back did a study on the subject.
 
(quoted from post at 15:07:02 09/20/19) Well, both of my 8n's sit under cover and I never work them in the rain, and they still get water in the trans and engine as far that that goes. if the felt washer is there it should stop rain from getting in. I thought someone a few back did a study on the subject.
ohn Smith did on the gear shift, but I don't remember one on the draft plunger. You might get on with an expedited study by well placed lawn sprinkler, over night. :twisted:
 
Ford did not equip his tractors with a draft spring cover but Ferguson and MF did on some models.

Yes, rain water can get into the sump via the draft control plunger, especially after years of wear, but a damaged or missing gear shift boot is a more likely culprit.

Still, condensation is the primary source of water contamination these days, be it transmission/hydraulic/differential or engine sump.

Dean
 
Some general info here that might interest some.
Ford left that draft spring exposed from the Ns all the way through the Hundred Series and early Thousand Series - up through 1964.
In 1965 when the 3000 came out they did cover the draft spring.
Interestingly, though the 3 cylinder 2000 and 3000 are nearly identical and share at least 90% of the same parts, that spring was left exposed on the 2000. I do not know why but it is one of those subtle differences that allows a trained eye to immediately recognize a 2000 vs a 3000 from a snap shot of the rear end.
You can see how the spring was covered in this photo.

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Simple solutions: Don't use it when it's raining; Keep the tractor in the barn or tractor shed when not in use; If it's stored outside, keep it tarped when not in use.

Tim *PloughNman* Daley(MI)
 
Hey Dogman-
Interesting. I never really thought about it and didn't realize they were enclosed til later on. Thanks for sharing.

Tim *PloughNman* Daley(MI)
 
Dogman-
While we're talking Thousand Series models, can you tell me if and when FORD went to the Zenith carburetors? I know Marvel-Schebler carbs were used as the OEM go-to style for all N-Series up thru the Hundred Series models, but not sure if M/S went past them. Thanks.


Tim *PloughNman* Daley(MI)
 
I didn't think Ford ever used a Zenith but maybe.
I'd say they used the MS carbs all the way through 1964. Someone like Dean or Kirk could better answer that.
From 65 on, till the demise of the gassers in 1988? they used the infamous Holley carbs. It's those that most guys have tossed and replaced with an aftermarket Zenith. Well, 'cept Hobo. He loves those bloody Holleys. Might be he's smarter or more patient than the rest of us. Or he just has low expectations. Wink
 

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