9N Missing an Attachment

rgrimard

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My 1941 9N is missing an attachment but I have no idea what it is called??. I would like to pull some 8ft Logs out of the woods and wanted to make sure I have the correct attachment for the Job. I have read on this Forum that the Draw is not designed for hauling heavy loads. Can someone comment as to what I need for that attachment. I have 2 photos I'm sending attached, I hope they come through.. Thank you for your comments and any instructions...

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UD, That is for an 8N are you sure it will bolt onto a 9N? I seem to remember that it will not.
 
Apologies to the OP, as my comment is OT for the thread.

That said, I decided to take advantage of the OP's photo to illustrate the difference between 1952 upper lift arms and 51 and prior upper lift arms.

The right side upper lift arm is the redesigned and strengthened arm used on the 52 8Ns, whereas the left side arm is the 51 and prior design.

Note that the left side arm is bent, which is not uncommon.

Again, my apologies to the OP.

Dean
 
(quoted from post at 12:21:39 08/31/19) I have pulled many logs with the same setup you have there!
Rusty....can you tell me what type of device gets attached to that opening on top just behind the seat?? something must fit into that rugged connecting joint?...I'm lost as to what it would do. I can't find any tractor 9N pictures that shows a hook-up to that Joint. I'm not a Tractor Guy but I
don't want to bust it either...Ron And thank you for your reply.
 
Are you saying that you just back up to the Log ...lower the draw bar and wrap a chain around the log and attach it to the Draw Bar and raise it to clear the ground and drive out with?? I just want to be careful to understand that is the intended use for the Draw bar and I'm not Over or exceeding the limits of the design. Tell me how you used the draw bar to skid logs if you would please. Thank you...Ron
 
"Are you saying that you just back up to the Log ...lower the draw bar and wrap a chain around the log and attach it to the Draw Bar and raise it to clear the ground and drive out with?"

You want to pull as low as possible. The pull point should be lower than the centerline of the rear axle. As to the "what type of device gets attached to that opening on top just behind the seat?" that is for the top link. For what you are wanting to do I would suggest getting a 3/4" pin that fits through that hole and a lynch pin to secure it. Get a pair of "stay bars" and connect them from the pin in the top link hole to the pin on each side of the 11 hole drawbar. Adjust the stay bars so that the drawbar is as low as it will go and will prevent it from rising up when you pull.

Most important:
If the front wheels come off the ground STEP ON THE CLUTCH!

<a href="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/Ford-9N_Stay-Strap-Lower-Blue_9N5375B.html">two of these</a>


<a href="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/Ford-9N_Stay-Strap-Upper-Blue_9N5374B.html">and two of these</a>
 
The upper point of attachment is for three point equipment, i.e. plow, or stay links to support the drawbar at a
standard height. DO NOT ATTACH A CHAIN OR OTHER TO PULL ANYTHING! IT CAN KILL YOU!
 
From time to time I install the components as per this picture ?.they fit on both my 2-N and or Ferguson TEA-20..


Bob....
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(quoted from post at 15:56:21 08/31/19) Are you saying that you just back up to the Log ...lower the draw bar and wrap a chain around the log and attach it to the Draw Bar and raise it to clear the ground and drive out with?? I just want to be careful to understand that is the intended use for the Draw bar and I'm not Over or exceeding the limits of the design. Tell me how you used the draw bar to skid logs if you would please. Thank you...Ron

I never found any need to raise the end of the log unless it gets caught on something. I just keep the drawbar in the lowered position which is essentially pulling from the llift arm pins below the axle. Put a wrap of chain around the log and drag it along the ground. I wouldn't recommend skidding anything larger than 30" or so at the butt and then only in "short" lengths. If you are on hilly terrain be careful - don''t let a big one get away and start rolling because it may just out pull the tractor :idea:

TOH
 
(quoted from post at 21:42:57 08/31/19)
(quoted from post at 15:56:21 08/31/19) Are you saying that you just back up to the Log ...lower the draw bar and wrap a chain around the log and attach it to the Draw Bar and raise it to clear the ground and drive out with?? I just want to be careful to understand that is the intended use for the Draw bar and I'm not Over or exceeding the limits of the design. Tell me how you used the draw bar to skid logs if you would please. Thank you...Ron

I never found any need to raise the end of the log unless it gets caught on something. I just keep the drawbar in the lowered position which is essentially pulling from the llift arm pins below the axle. Put a wrap of chain around the log and drag it along the ground. I wouldn't recommend skidding anything larger than 30" or so at the butt and then only in "short" lengths. If you are on hilly terrain be careful - don''t let a big one get away and start rolling because it may just out pull the tractor :idea:
Thank you for the details,,, I appreciate your comments on being careful about large logs behind the 9N...makes good since.....Ron

TOH
 

Bob....I like that diagram.....Where can I find this diagram Yesterdays Tractor Catalog?? or maybe Steiner's Catalog?. I want to do further research on this "Stay Bar" setup. It looks pretty strong, and the right part that I'm looking for from what the photo shows. Thank you for sending the photo in your post....Ron
 
You'd better get out your OEM Operator's Manual and READ the safety section on the 3-pt lift. Don't have one? Shame on you. You don't ever pull from above the PTO. You best get a drawbar and clevis to pull with and NEVER set the 3-pt to pull logs with -it's like giving a monkey a hand grenade,,,

TPD
 
YT??? STEINERS??? Why don't you invest in the proper essential manuals if'N ya wanna be an N-Owner???

FORD 8N TRACTOR ESSENTIAL OWNER OPERATOR'S/PARTS/SERVICE MANUALS:

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Tim Daley(MI)
 
I own and operate various Tractors?.TEA-20 Ferguson...1945 2-N....are a couple models..

I happen to have the Parts Manuals and Service Manuals for the above Tractors.....

I'm unable to suggest a supplier of these parts as I purchased one 2-N (Daily runner) one TEA-20 Ferguson (Daily runner) as well three Ferguson parts machines...all came with the various parts manuals and service manuals...

The lift / stabilizers components on my 2-N are all from a parts Ferguson TEA-20....

Mr.Henry Ford and Mr.Harry Ferguson had a short partnership....thus, the lift components are such that they interchange...

I'm sure there are those who bleed Ferguson whom shall roll on the ground kick at the sky and scream bloody murder to even think of using "N" parts...the same said for the loyal "N" owners.

At the end of the day,SAFETY is always my first prioity?.


Bob...
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(quoted from post at 10:11:18 09/01/19) You'd better get out your OEM Operator's Manual and READ the safety section on the 3-pt lift. Don't have one? Shame on you. You don't ever pull from above the PTO. You best get a drawbar and clevis to pull with and NEVER set the 3-pt to pull logs with -it's like giving a monkey a hand grenade,,,

TPD

Go look at your tractor Tim. The 3pt lift arm pins ARE below the PTO and more importantly well below the center line of the axle shafts. Pulling from that point is not the same as pulling from the top link or a raised 3pt drawbar which is very dangerous. The man has a 9N which has no provision for an under axle drawbar and has to use the 3pt drawbar as originally designed and that means pulling from the lowered position.

Maybe I should start making the 9N/2N under axle drawbar conversions again so the safety police can sleep easy. :roll:

TOH
 
(quoted from post at 18:15:45 08/31/19) "Are you saying that you just back up to the Log ...lower the draw bar and wrap a chain around the log and attach it to the Draw Bar and raise it to clear the ground and drive out with?"

You want to pull as low as possible. The pull point should be lower than the centerline of the rear axle. As to the "what type of device gets attached to that opening on top just behind the seat?" that is for the top link. For what you are wanting to do I would suggest getting a 3/4" pin that fits through that hole and a lynch pin to secure it. Get a pair of "stay bars" and connect them from the pin in the top link hole to the pin on each side of the 11 hole drawbar. Adjust the stay bars so that the drawbar is as low as it will go and will prevent it from rising up when you pull.

Most important:
If the front wheels come off the ground STEP ON THE CLUTCH!

&lt;a href="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/Ford-9N_Stay-Strap-Lower-Blue_9N5375B.html"&gt;two of these&lt;/a&gt;


&lt;a href="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/Ford-9N_Stay-Strap-Upper-Blue_9N5374B.html"&gt;and two of these&lt;/a&gt;

Thank you Dean for all of your Help. I will Order TWO of each as you suggested and using my "Ford Master Parts Catalog" I can see the Diagram that you referred to....I'll try to send you a Photo once I get it hooked up..Ron
 
Rgrimard, It's a shame you live so far from here, I have no use for this V bar anymore. Got it with the J-bolts for next to nothing. I'd give it away.


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(quoted from post at 18:08:13 09/01/19) Rgrimard, It's a shame you live so far from here, I have no use for this V bar anymore. Got it with the J-bolts for next to nothing. I'd give it away.


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Hi Patrick....what State are you located in?? Maybe shipping cost might be cheaper than if I was to purchase something from the Tractor place... Let me know I'm interested in this tool....Ron
 
(quoted from post at 20:38:41 09/01/19) I'm over a thousand miles from you, shipping that thing is not going to be cost effective.

Well .....at least I have your very nice Photo of the
Stay-Bar setup and that is just what I needed to see.
Surely appreciate you taking the time to send it along
to me.
I will Order those two Pair's of stay bars from YTractor
and it should be helpful.
Sure would have liked to got a hold of yours but..as you say the shipping might be the wrong way to go...Thank you for your help with this project !!....Ron
 
(quoted from post at 20:38:41 09/01/19) I'm over a thousand miles from you, shipping that thing is not going to be cost effective.

PatrickB.....I have a couple Questions for you if you Please
... Is that Tractor in the photo a 9N or 8N ??

... I see that your Top Link Rocker (behind the seat)
is a different style then what my 9N has. My Ford 9N Parts manual shows one, like yours, with several holes in it. Mine only has 1 hole for a 3/4 pin. Probably for something like a Bush-Hog or Harrow. I ordered a set of those "Stay Bar straps" for the 11-hole draw bar to keep it in place. I was wondering if your tractor came with that style of Top Link Rocker?? ....Ron
 
Ron, my tractor is a 52 8N that came with a 3 hole rocker. You will attach your stays in that one hole you have available.
 

Thank you Patrick....yes !! I agree with you. After looking through my Ford Manuals and taking some measurements this Morning for what I have to work with I can see that those "Stay Bar Straps that I have on Order should work with what I have in place now. Your photos were very helpful to see how they would attach. Certainly appreciate those, they were very helpful.....Ron
 

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