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brash_vs

05-14-2019 16:33:59




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i have a 9n and whenever it moves the shifter rattles on the tranny gears, my pin is broken but i dont believe thats the main problem. i believe the ball and socket are worn enough to lower the shifter to rub the gears, is there a fix like adding shims or ? or do i have to get a whole new cover




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brash_vs

05-15-2019 15:42:00




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 Re: shifter grinding in reply to brash_vs, 05-14-2019 16:33:59  
this was what i was thinking i had to do. on his post i dont understand what he uses for a shim, he says a machine bearing?



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HCooke

05-15-2019 06:10:01




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 Re: shifter grinding in reply to brash_vs, 05-14-2019 16:33:59  
I have fixed several of these. I take the trans cover off, Take it to a welder who builds up the slot, and then I cut it down to the original dimension.



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John in Mich

05-15-2019 07:29:11




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 Re: shifter grinding in reply to HCooke, 05-15-2019 06:10:01  
My experience was the pocket was also worn. Steel shift ball on aluminum pocket. At the same time I replaced the steering gears in the box. I made a jig to align the gears and the steering wheel.



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Kirk-NJ

05-15-2019 00:02:42




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 Re: shifter grinding in reply to brash_vs, 05-14-2019 16:33:59  
I have seen some pretty crude temp fixes for this over the years. Seen one where a guy used a longer pin and added a couple of washers to the outside to prop it up and then wrapped with a radiator clamp to hold it together then cut and try to hide it with a shifter boot and some duct tape. Anyway on the N tractor site in the How to section scroll down to transmission for the fix.If you can find it send me an email for the link.

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brash_vs

05-14-2019 18:34:48




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 Re: shifter grinding in reply to brash_vs, 05-14-2019 16:33:59  
i put the new roll pin in and it is a little better but still drags. its like the shifter leans away from where the pin is ridding, i believe the socket where the ball on the shifter rides is worn out. unless i can build that area up i will need a new housing

what someone needs to do is make an insert where it gets pressed down inside and the existing hole



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John in Mich

05-15-2019 05:29:32




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 Re: shifter grinding in reply to brash_vs, 05-14-2019 18:34:48  
One of the things that tried before molding some epoxy into the socket was a Delta single lever faucet washer upside down. I did not like the movement feel.



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TheOldHokie

05-14-2019 17:54:04




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 Re: shifter grinding in reply to brash_vs, 05-14-2019 16:33:59  
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He will probably have better luck searching for a .25 x 1.5 roll pin ;-)

TOH



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John in Mich

05-14-2019 17:41:23




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 Re: shifter grinding in reply to brash_vs, 05-14-2019 16:33:59  
I have experienced the same thing. I had a welder build up the top of the socket and then I cut a new grove for the pin. I did try some shims but did not like the effect on the lever.
I pulled the cover and clamped a small board to the bottom. A friend mixed some epoxy and we molded it into the socket with a steel ball bearing the same size as the ball of the shift shaft. I then drilled out the hole. My email is open if you would like to see some pictures.

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brash_vs

05-14-2019 17:40:45




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 Re: shifter grinding in reply to brash_vs, 05-14-2019 16:33:59  
i was going to but is there that much pressure on the pin to hold up the shifter



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Den N Ms

05-14-2019 18:03:09




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 Re: shifter grinding in reply to brash_vs, 05-14-2019 17:40:45  
Brash,Is your top cover aluminum or is it cast steel?



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Den N Ms

05-14-2019 17:37:03




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 Re: shifter grinding in reply to brash_vs, 05-14-2019 16:33:59  

Brash,Replace the broken pin PIN,6.35mm OD x 38.1mm L part No: 9N7221B.Check the spring and it's retainer



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