cooling system again

I think I know the answer but want an opinion from someone smarter than me. My 8N is boiling antifreeze and steaming at the top but the lower hose is cold as can be and the radiator is not over filled. I put in a thermostat when I rebuilt this thing and today took out the stat wondering if it made any difference. Nope, still boiled over so now I am assuming a bad water pump. Make sense?

Is it at all necessary to use the thermostat because when I got the tractor it had none and I ran it for 2 years that way.

Thanks
thunderman
 
" so now I am assuming a bad water pump. Make sense?"

Nope.

Rather than assume anything, troubleshoot the problem.


" Is it at all necessary to use the thermostat because when I got the tractor it had none and I ran it for 2 years that way."

Yes, you need a t-stat. Ford put it there for a reason; see tip # 25.

The most common reason for an N to ?over heat? is over filling the radiator. Only add enough fluid to cover the core. (check out tip # 24, below as well as tips 25 & 35) It is not actually over heating; it is just spewing out the excess water.

If the radiator is not overfilled, check for low coolant, a loose fan belt, debris in the radiator fins or a stuck thermostat. A bad water pump will usually squeak or leak. (If you ever have a water pump start leaking or making noise, replace it immediately. A N water pump will come apart & launch the fan into the radiator.) And, unless you have a new/rebuilt water pump from a reputable source, it could have impeller erosion. The pump will turn, it won?t leak, but it isn?t circulating water.

The fan belt should have 1/2" of flex at the mid-point; no more, no less.

Unless you have a pusher fan, blowing out the radiator from the engine side is always a good idea.

If none of that works, you may need to flush the radiator & block.

Get a can/bottle of cleaner from the parts store.

Remove the t-stat from the top hose. Reconnect the hose.

Pour the cleaner in the radiator & run the tractor to operating temp.

Then, remove the bottom hose from the radiator, stuff a rag in the bottom radiator hose connection, & stick your garden hose in the top of the radiator. Turn the water on (reverse flush) & the water will flow into the radiator, then the block & out of the disconnected lower hose. Let it run until the water is clear. Then, check the radiator flow. Stick the hose in the top of the radiator; the water should flow out of the bottom w/o backing up in the filler neck. It should flow at 19.5 gallons a minute. Don?t forget to put the t-stat back in correctly!

Use 50/50 anti-freeze & distilled water as your coolant. The anti-freeze contains rust inhibitors, pump lubricant & raises the boiling point of the coolant.

If you do need to get the radiator re-cored, make sure you get the flat fin industrial core. Automotive style cores will clog up w/ debris very quickly.
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i'd say it's advisable. it can't hurt to bring your tractor temp up in less time, it helps to combat the inevitable condensation.
 
(quoted from post at 16:36:10 03/22/19)
i'd say it's advisable. it can't hurt to bring your tractor temp up in less time, it helps to combat the inevitable condensation.
s simple as removing the radiator cap, running engine while looking into radiator filler neck and see the coolant coming out of top neck into top tank....that is the recirculating flow.
 

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