My bushhog has chains instead of rigid brackets. I will be soon hooking up this cutter to my 8N just for wood trails upkeep couple times a year, no fields. I see that most cutters have rigid brackets. Is there an advantage or disadvantage of using one type or the other. It would not be a problem installing couple of brackets. Just curious.
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Farmer Dan
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On my 9N I use limiter chains, your 8N should have position control so you won't need the chains.
John in Mich
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For my use, I liked sway bars to restrict any side to side movement and height limiter chains to maintain
cutting height without depending on hydrauics to hold a constant height. I worked without both when I
first bought my brushhog in 1972. Also, I did not have an overrun coupling for the first few years that
I had that mower. Sure had some scary moments until I figured out to pull the PTO lever forward when I
wanted to stop. Then, with the momentum of the PTO, I let that pick up the mower and also stop the
rotation. I even learned how to re-engage the PTO on the move if the mower was still turning. Like
shifting a manual transmission without using the clutch.
cutting height without depending on hydrauics to hold a constant height. I worked without both when I
first bought my brushhog in 1972. Also, I did not have an overrun coupling for the first few years that
I had that mower. Sure had some scary moments until I figured out to pull the PTO lever forward when I
wanted to stop. Then, with the momentum of the PTO, I let that pick up the mower and also stop the
rotation. I even learned how to re-engage the PTO on the move if the mower was still turning. Like
shifting a manual transmission without using the clutch.
Which brackets are you referring to? The ones that go from the top
link down to the mower deck? I have seen those replaced with chain
or partially replaced with chain, to allow the tail wheel to travel over
rough terrain without jamming the top link into the tractor.
Similar to this picture I found on the web.
link down to the mower deck? I have seen those replaced with chain
or partially replaced with chain, to allow the tail wheel to travel over
rough terrain without jamming the top link into the tractor.
Similar to this picture I found on the web.
Tim PloughNman Daley RIP
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Not sure what you mean, but think you are referring to Limiter Chains. You have an 8N with POSITION CONTROL so you don't need the chains and limiter brackets.
TPD
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I do not mean the limiter chains. Even with the 8N, I use adjustable limiter chain from the top link to the lift arms to minimize hydraulic stress. I used them years ago when I had the 9N, but I like to use them with the 8N as well.
I meant rigid brackets from the top link to the mower itself.
When I purchased my 8N, the mower came with it. Someone made this sliding top link that they used on it. It lets the back of the mower rise and fall where it wants to. It gives the top link 8" of play. Plus it's safer than a chain because it will only let the mower come up so far.
As far as limiter chains, I use them on my 8N. The hydraulics work perfect but why have them do all that work of keeping the mower a certain distance off the ground when limiter chains do the same thing? And, of course I also use stabilizer bars.
showcrop
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Some here are talking about support of the front of the mower while some are talking about support of the rear. Many mowers appear to have rigid support of the rear when there is actually some sort of telescoping or hinging that is not readily noticeable as on my Woods mower. As Royse said you have to allow for when your tailwheel goes up and over terrain. I would not operate a rear mower that din't allow the tail wheel to go up.
For some reason I don't see what limiter chains you mean. That top link hook up looks different at the Bush Hog. I have a similar King Kutter that doesn't have that.(quoted from post at 14:15:06 02/11/19)
On my 9N I use limiter chains, your 8N should have position control so you won't need the chains.
Yeah, I guess I leave the chains that hook up to the back as they are. It would be a better solution for me… that and the limiter chains that keep the front of the mower at a fixed height… and yes, stabilizer bars. Thanks everybody for the inputs. Curiosity pushed me to ask this question. Anyway this is what I have.
(quoted from post at 16:00:52 02/12/19) Yeah, I guess I leave the chains that hook up to the back as they are. It would be a better solution for me… that and the limiter chains that keep the front of the mower at a fixed height… and yes, stabilizer bars. Thanks everybody for the inputs. Curiosity pushed me to ask this question. Anyway this is what I have.
I've never seen chains hooked up like that. Look at my pic below. You see the sway chains hooked to a bracket at the PTO and going to the pin where the verticle arm connects to the lift arms. These chains just limit the side travel of the implement to keep it away from the tires. You can also see my stabilizer arms. You can get those brackets for the limiter chains that bolt on each side of your PTO right here at this site.
https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/NCA596B_Drawbar-Check-Chain-Kit_27634.htm
You see my limiter chains connected to the lugs on the rear end and going to the lift pins on the implement.
I don't see anything wrong with your setup NCmau.
The lift pins look high to me, but if it fits and works, not an issue.
The sway chains are more to keep the empty arms out of your
tires. With an implement, I would want sway bars in place.
Which you said you are using.
I would also make sure there's not enough slack in the long chains
to get into your PTO shaft when it's hooked up and operational.
The lift pins look high to me, but if it fits and works, not an issue.
The sway chains are more to keep the empty arms out of your
tires. With an implement, I would want sway bars in place.
Which you said you are using.
I would also make sure there's not enough slack in the long chains
to get into your PTO shaft when it's hooked up and operational.
Last time I used the mower was several years ago with my 9N. I can not use the mower with my Work Bull because it uses a PTO pump for the loader. I don’t remember why the lift pin are in the high position, but I think is because of the mower box being so high... maybe. Anyway when the time comes, I will see the best pin position.
(quoted from post at 06:17:40 02/14/19)Last time I used the mower was several years ago with my 9N. I can not use the mower with my Work Bull because it uses a PTO pump for the loader. I don’t remember why the lift pin are in the high position, but I think is because of the mower box being so high... maybe. Anyway when the time comes, I will see the best pin position.
That's my Workbull you see in my pics. It has a front mounted pump for the loader. I thought the ones that came stock with a loader all had front mounted pumps.
Thanks. This machine has served me well. It is the right size to do anything I have to do here. Over the years I made several attachments to the bucket including an attachment for 3PT implements.
I need another tractor like I need a hole in the head…. but I just had to have the classic 8N… it is not the Need, is the Want.
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