No Sediment bowl

jrowen135

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The Golden Jubilee I recently purchased does not have a sediment bowl below the gas tank. The gas tank is newer and there doesn’t appear to be enough clearance below the tank for a sediment bowl to fit. Would I be able to add an in- line filter and would that suffice?
 
I do not run a sediment bowl on my 8n and have an inline fuel filter. If it is works on my cars then why not on my tractors.
 
Is it a replacement tank with the fuel outlet in the center?
If so, look to see if the tank has another outlet spot on the right
rear near the corner where the sediment bowl would go on an NAA.
The aftermarket tanks are often made to fit the NAA and others
which had a different setup with the sediment bowl on the carb.
 
Do you plow and disc with your car? Cut
grass with it? Fill your car's gas tank
from 5 gallon cans?

Your car isn't a tractor. It has some
pretty sophisticated equipment and sensors
to deal with contaminated fuel. Your
tractor has a glass bowl and your eyeballs.
75 Tips
 
(quoted from post at 18:43:59 11/21/18) Is it a replacement tank with the fuel outlet in the center?
If so, look to see if the tank has another outlet spot on the right
rear near the corner where the sediment bowl would go on an NAA.
The aftermarket tanks are often made to fit the NAA and others
which had a different setup with the sediment bowl on the carb.

Yes it’s an aftermarket tank with the outlet in the center. I’ll look for the other outlet or just use an in line filter. Thanks!

Also, I’m not sure if I understand the 1 gallon reserve. My understanding is the reserve is used when the valve I all the way opened but I’m not sure I know how tha works. And also haven’t been able to find info on how far to open the valve for regular operation without using the reserve.
 
(quoted from post at 21:43:06 11/21/18)
(quoted from post at 18:43:59 11/21/18) Is it a replacement tank with the fuel outlet in the center?
If so, look to see if the tank has another outlet spot on the right
rear near the corner where the sediment bowl would go on an NAA.
The aftermarket tanks are often made to fit the NAA and others
which had a different setup with the sediment bowl on the carb.

Yes it’s an aftermarket tank with the outlet in the center. I’ll look for the other outlet or just use an in line filter. Thanks!

Also, I’m not sure if I understand the 1 gallon reserve. My understanding is the reserve is used when the valve I all the way opened but I’m not sure I know how tha works. And also haven’t been able to find info on how far to open the valve for regular operation without using the reserve.
With the sediment bowl, you open it two full turns for normal operation.
If you run out of fuel at that setting, you can open it all the way to use the reserve to get home.
 
(quoted from post at 18:32:41 11/21/18) Do you plow and disc with your car? Cut
grass with it? Fill your car's gas tank
from 5 gallon cans?

Your car isn't a tractor. It has some
pretty sophisticated equipment and sensors
to deal with contaminated fuel. Your
tractor has a glass bowl and your eyeballs.
75 Tips

No of course I do not do all those things with my car but an inline fuel filter will filter the fuel just as well on a tractor or a car.
 
"an inline fuel filter will filter the fuel just as well on a tractor or a car."

I'll agree with that. My issue with putting them on a tractor is
the way many are installed. Plastic filters, using cheap clamps
on rubber lines that are hanging out in the open to get caught
on tree branches or left so close as to be melting on the manifold.

Here's a slideshow of one tractor I reconditioned. [b:6c384adeb6]Krispy[/b:6c384adeb6]
To be honest, I don't know if the filter caused this fire, but it did
have a plastic filter mounted in rubber lines before it caught fire.
 
Yep, years ago I had a fire under the hood of my pickup. It started because of an inline plastic filter that somehow got a pinhole in it and was spraying gas onto the exhaust manifold. Lesson learned.
 
(quoted from post at 01:18:44 11/22/18)
Plastic filters, using cheap clamps on rubber lines that are hanging out in the open to get caught on tree branches or left so close as to be melting on the manifold.

u pretty much just described the state of my N when it got here, altho i must say that in my case, "so close actually = "touching."

the filter is still part of my system. i think i've changed out one of the clamps and one or both of the pieces of rubber line.

i am lucky on the tree branch thing, as my N is a single purpose machine - lawn mower - and while the edges of my yard includes a couple hundred yards of privet , my old king kutter exhausts to the left, so the filter is on the far side.

i may get around to redoing the fuel line this offseason, but it's not at the top of the list. refresh my memory, please - thirty inch brake line is what i need?

Here's a slideshow of one tractor I reconditioned. [b:b4274edb20]Krispy[/b:b4274edb20]

always a pleasure to see Krispy and the excellent job u did :)
 
The aftermarket fuel tanks I have used. Had two outlets. One offset
to the side for the NAA. Another outlet in the center for the
hundred series.

A lot of people remove the strainer completely and use a shut off
valve with inline filter.

I know a lot of you guys don't like inline filters. The filters work
much better than a brass screen in a strainer. If installed
correctly will not start a fire.

Modern cars use inline filters with plastic fuel lines. I have
replaced the plastic line on my brothers Oldsmobile twice. Once his
Oldsmobile split a fuel injector o-ring while he was driving it. It
pumped about three gallons of fuel on the hot engine before he could
stop.
 

oh ya, PS:

while branches have been no issue with the fuel filter, very early on, they did cause me to replace the vertical exhaust with what, for my purposes, is the sane horizontal one. i am confident the horizontal exhaust won't set my yard on fire :)
 
I truly doubt a horizontal muffler would start a grass fire. I
knew several old farmers including grandpa that plow several
acres of wheat stubble each year with an 8n and two bottom plow.
None of them ever had any problems with the muffler starting a
fire.
 

i wouldn't know, TG2, and i'll never find out. i have seen several people talk about it, tho - so call it a preemptive strike ;)
 
(quoted from post at 16:22:42 11/21/18) The Golden Jubilee I recently purchased does not have a sediment bowl below the gas tank. The gas tank is newer and there doesn’t appear to be enough clearance below the tank for a sediment bowl to fit. Would I be able to add an in- line filter and would that suffice?

I have both bowl and inline, but for the smaller inline plastic filters that have their in and out pipes stepped to fit both 1/4" or 5/16" fuel lines, I razor knife cut the skinny 1/4" pieces off before installing.
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(quoted from post at 14:33:38 11/22/18) TT Bruce will have your hiney for using a inline filter.

But, but . . . you mean I have to actually get out of my seat, and take the gas cap off to figure out why the tractor won't run, instead of just leaning over sideways and looking? :D
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(quoted from post at 16:58:25 11/22/18)
(quoted from post at 14:33:38 11/22/18) TT Bruce will have your hiney for using a inline filter.

But, but . . . you mean I have to actually get out of my seat, and take the gas cap off to figure out why the tractor won't run, instead of just leaning over sideways and looking? :D
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Yep I like the visual .

 
(quoted from post at 18:42:05 11/22/18)
(quoted from post at 16:58:25 11/22/18)
(quoted from post at 14:33:38 11/22/18) TT Bruce will have your hiney for using a inline filter.

But, but . . . you mean I have to actually get out of my seat, and take the gas cap off to figure out why the tractor won't run, instead of just leaning over sideways and looking? :D
mvphoto27103.jpg

Yep I like the visual .

But look at the different ways they are connected.
Tall T's with dual clamps, down under and away from the manifold.
Yours with what looks to be a glass filter and metal lines.
Neither are bad compared to something like this recently posted picture.
And this picture has a sediment bowl, not an inline filter.
BTW, if you keep the top half of the tank full, the bottom half never
runs empty. No need for a visual. Plus, you'd still have the reserve. ;)

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Will add I took out a telephone pole and a few trees with a couple of cars...

I dunno who started the inline fuel filter myths but they need to go stick their head in the sand cuzz they are dead wrong about them so wrong they make chit up...

Personalty I don't care what you run when I see a inline filter I look in the tank its an almost grantee the inline filter is used because the tank is contaminated and needs to be replaced... That's why the original was tamped with..

If I were to run an inline it would be a big'N not a lawn mower pizzie arse little'N.... Clear are not its gonna be a BIG"N like a all metal wix 33023...

If it stops up go get another one no fuel filter is forever they are a maintenance item... Get over it and repair were the contamination is coming from life will be good...
 
(quoted from post at 19:26:13 11/22/18)
Will add I took out a telephone pole and a few trees with a couple of cars...

I dunno who started the inline fuel filter myths but they need to go stick their head in the sand cuzz they are dead wrong about them so wrong they make chit up...

Personalty I don't care what you run when I see a inline filter I look in the tank its an almost grantee the inline filter is used because the tank is contaminated and needs to be replaced... That's why the original was tamped with..

If I were to run an inline it would be a big'N not a lawn mower pizzie arse little'N.... Clear are not its gonna be a BIG"N like a all metal wix 33023...

If it stops up go get another one no fuel filter is forever they are a maintenance item... Get over it and repair were the contamination is coming from life will be good...

Hobo,

I didn't like the little whimpy ones either. the tractor came with one of those so when I went looking for 1/4' pipe filters, this was all they had . . . so I cut the 1/4 ends off to improve the flow (maybe).

Anyway, from now on it is full size like is on the Jube right now. the double clamps are my insurance for 5/16 hose on 1/4" gas line. But i still like see-thru. :D
I also bent the lines for a more vertical config.
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I wanted the filter totally vertical actually but put that project off till later . . . vertical like Arkansas Ken's but just one of these el cheapo plastic see-thru's , mounted way further back and shielded more if need be.

The way it is now, the purple petrol never goes much above the filter out pipe exit (I like the marked gas for color and Jube likes it for performance)
so only half the surface area of the filter is being utilized,
so after a while I could back off the 2 spring clamps and rotate the filter 180 degrees. Instant new filter:)

What was that commercial . . . .
Stop, stop two mints in one, or something like that.
or was it a toothpaste ad?

This is a seniors test
Do not adjust your set.
Points that is. :D
 

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