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mikewood869

11-11-2018 19:18:07




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Might be thinking of getting another 8n (8n number 5, but 2nd 8n running). Are there any different in hp from a front mount motor (does a side mount have more or less power). The one I'm looking at is a 48 front mount. If I was to get this tractor it would be use for a backhoe with dozer blade in front. Would I need a sherman for this (the sherman that was in the backhoe went into our side mount 8n)?

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Hobo,NC

11-13-2018 04:50:16




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 Re: Ford 8n questions in reply to mikewood869, 11-11-2018 19:18:07  
All 8N heads I have checked have the smaller pocket cylinder heads. Other than the oil filter mounting holes the front mount does not have the mounting holes for a side mt coil... The mounting issues can be worked around...
An original 8N head is a good upgrade from a 9/2 N head. The aftermarket head had the deep cylinder pocket like a 2/9N head and has all the provisions to mount the filter and coil... If I were to use a aftermarket head it would go to the machine shop for a massage to bump the compression...

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W_B

11-12-2018 19:06:57




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 Re: Ford 8n questions in reply to mikewood869, 11-11-2018 19:18:07  
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If I recall correctly the WD has almost twice the h.p. of an N. The one we had back in the day had a fresh rebuild and an M&W power kit giving it the same h.p. of the WD-45. Easily pulled a 3 bottom plow.



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HFJ

11-12-2018 09:15:00




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 Re: Ford 8n questions in reply to mikewood869, 11-11-2018 19:18:07  
yes, the holes for the filter housing are in the head, regardless.

i agree completely with caryc, right down to my N being a dedicated lawnmower :)

i would love a loader and/or backhoe. if and when i set out to find one or the other, they would be for my allis-chalmers WD. it doesn't have a lot more power than an N, but it's a larger, heavier tractor with a real frame to attach stuff to. i have no interest in loading down my N with that stuff.

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mikewood869

11-12-2018 09:13:47




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 Re: Ford 8n questions in reply to mikewood869, 11-11-2018 19:18:07  
I’ve bee looking for a motor for the one I have (the block is junk). When we loaded the tractor onto the trailer, the steering was very easy. I coul see some one popping wheels with. I would rather put a bigger engine onto the tractor. I would rather have the backhoe on our Ford 6610 or 3000 but I would have to take the arms off or something.

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Caryc

11-12-2018 08:51:53




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 Re: Ford 8n questions in reply to mikewood869, 11-11-2018 19:18:07  
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I don't know why you want to clumsy up an 8N with a backhoe and a dozer blade. Rather than sink all kinds of money into an 8N why not just look for a better tractor?
I have had my 8N with an FEL for over ten years now and it's been a great little tractor. With a backhoe and a dozer blade on an 8N you're going to be wishing it had power steering and more power coming from that engine.
I purchased a 1958 MF202 Workbull with a four cylinder OHV gas engine for $2000. It has an FEL and a front fork attachment and power steering. It also has 40 HP and 6 speeds coming from a hi / lo transmission. It's a much better tractor than the 8N. However I will never sell the 8N. It's my dedicated mower tractor now. I never have to take the mower off of it.
Before sinking a bunch of money into a 23 HP 8N, why not look around and see what else you can find?

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mikewood869

11-12-2018 07:00:34




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 Re: Ford 8n questions in reply to mikewood869, 11-11-2018 19:18:07  
That shouldn’t be a issue. Looks like the holes are still on the head. I would probably have to make new lines or add something (I can’t remember if there were holes for the oil filter housing on the block).



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JMOR

11-12-2018 06:05:03




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 Re: Ford 8n questions in reply to mikewood869, 11-11-2018 19:18:07  
Oil filter mounting holes are in different location on side vs front mount, but a man could deal with that.



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mikewood869

11-12-2018 05:56:19




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 Re: Ford 8n questions in reply to mikewood869, 11-11-2018 19:18:07  
So I can just switch out the head then. I have a head that came off a 1950 block (the block is from a side mount engine but I don’t know the year).



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JMOR

11-12-2018 05:52:05




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 Re: Ford 8n questions in reply to mikewood869, 11-11-2018 19:18:07  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeCompression gain was accomplished by size of combustion chamber in cylinder head.



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mikewood869

11-12-2018 05:35:06




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 Re: Ford 8n questions in reply to mikewood869, 11-11-2018 19:18:07  
Thanks, how would you get higher compression? By boring out the motor. This motor might need a overhaul, so was I wondering if I get in there.



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mikewood869

11-12-2018 05:32:49




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 Re: Ford 8n questions in reply to mikewood869, 11-11-2018 19:18:07  
Thanks, if I really needed to I would need a combo or step up,.



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Dollar Bill

11-12-2018 00:21:50




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 Re: Ford 8n questions in reply to mikewood869, 11-11-2018 19:18:07  
The FM engines produced 23.6 HP and the SM made 26.3. Increase was due to higher compression rather than distributor location.



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Kirk-NJ

11-12-2018 00:17:52




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 Re: Ford 8n questions in reply to mikewood869, 11-11-2018 19:18:07  
If your backhoe was run off a pto pump then a sherman in high range would give you a quicker response. If you ran one without a sherman it would still work but just be a little slower.



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