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8N wheel center doesn't it my new rims!

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Hepcat66

05-14-2018 20:37:44




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Got my new rims today (from YT) but the wheel centers are a little to large in diameter to fit against the face of the lugs. I assume this is a common problem. It's pretty close, needs .050 or .100 removed where it fits against the rim lug. OK to relieve that area?




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Royse

05-15-2018 18:15:28




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 Re: 8N wheel center doesn't it my new rims! in reply to Hepcat66, 05-14-2018 20:37:44  
"It was actually the wheel center I was thinking of modifying."

That would be the furthest thing from my mind. If they didn't
fit, I'd return them and get replacements or my money back.



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Hepcat66

05-15-2018 12:32:08




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 Re: 8N wheel center doesn't it my new rims! in reply to Hepcat66, 05-14-2018 20:37:44  
Sounds like hd6gtom has the right answer. I didn't have the nerve or the equipment to do it the right way so I trimmed a very small notch off the centers. The new rims are fromTISCO and are U.S. made. They do have the ramps too. Having the tires swapped tomorrow at Ag West. Nice that they're taking the 80 gallons or so of antifreeze that I removed, off my hands. This is on a '51 8N. Came with a 702 loader. Just like the one my dad bought new in 1950.
Thanks for all your replies, they really helped.

Don

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Ultradog MN

05-15-2018 11:08:40




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 Re: 8N wheel center doesn't it my new rims! in reply to Hepcat66, 05-14-2018 20:37:44  
Not uncommon with the new China Maids.
If you want them to fit buy Unverferths.
They'll cost a lot more but they'll fit.
On the other hand, though they're poorly made and only weigh about half as much as good ones because they're so thin, at least you can get the 6 loops.
I considered buying an 8 loop recently and it seems they are nla.



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hd6gtom

05-15-2018 10:51:13




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 Re: 8N wheel center doesn't it my new rims! in reply to Hepcat66, 05-14-2018 20:37:44  
I have replaced dozens of those rims when I was in the tire business. They are made to fit tight. I pulled them in with the 1/2" air gun. I never ground off anything.



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Dean

05-15-2018 11:10:22




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 Re: 8N wheel center doesn't it my new rims! in reply to hd6gtom, 05-15-2018 10:51:13  
N series centers or scalloped centers?

Dean



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Jim WI

05-15-2018 10:31:35




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 Re: 8N wheel center doesn't it my new rims! in reply to Hepcat66, 05-14-2018 20:37:44  
One of the new rims I bought didn't want to fit my center. It took a little moving it around before the bolts would go in, but they tightened up fine after that.



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Dean

05-15-2018 06:07:41




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 Re: 8N wheel center doesn't it my new rims! in reply to Hepcat66, 05-14-2018 20:37:44  
Not at all surprised.

You will need to modify your new rims or find good used rims.

Annoying, but it's the world that we live in.

Dean



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Dollar Bill

05-15-2018 03:51:47




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 Re: 8N wheel center doesn't it my new rims! in reply to Hepcat66, 05-14-2018 20:37:44  
With the required clearance you provided, I would grind a bevel/ramp at the base of rim loop. The rim will flex enough to allow the bolts to pull and locate the rim on the center disc.

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Dollar Bill

05-15-2018 03:42:09




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 Re: 8N wheel center doesn't it my new rims! in reply to Hepcat66, 05-14-2018 20:37:44  
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With the required clearance you provided, I would grind a bevel/ramp at the base of rim loop. The rim will flex enough to allow the bolts to pull and locate the rim on the center disc.



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Tim PloughNman Daley

05-15-2018 03:21:17




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 Re: 8N wheel center doesn't it my new rims! in reply to Hepcat66, 05-14-2018 20:37:44  
Can you post pictures? The FORD rear wheels were 28" used from '40 9N on up, but 9N/2N centers are different than 8N and later ones -the bolt hole patterns are not the same -and don't interchange. Are you saying the OD (outside diameter) of the center discs are too large to fit inside the new rim ID's (inside diameter)? What size wheels/rims did you buy? I would not alter the centers -get to the root problem. New, aftermarket rims sold today have 6-loop style lugs. A 28" rim as such should accept the original centers, whether it's a 9N or 8N center. You should have a 9 x 28 or 10 x 28 rim. Also, YT is not a parts supplier per-say. They only advertise parts suppliers/dealers who sponsor their site. I'd contact the supplier to fix the problem or return and buy from a more reliable source.

Tim *PloughNman* Daley(MI)

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Hepcat66

05-14-2018 22:23:51




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 Re: 8N wheel center doesn't it my new rims! in reply to Hepcat66, 05-14-2018 20:37:44  
It was actually the wheel center I was thinking of modifying. Thanks.



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Royse

05-14-2018 20:41:52




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 Re: 8N wheel center doesn't it my new rims! in reply to Hepcat66, 05-14-2018 20:37:44  
I've not bought the rims you did, but are you sure it's not just
rust/paint interference? I would not modify the new rims without

contacting the seller first. Might be warranty problems if you did.



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From The Hill

05-15-2018 20:22:29




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 Re: 8N wheel center doesn't it my new rims! in reply to Royse, 05-14-2018 20:41:52  
Just put new rims and tires on my 8N last month, ran into the same problem, thought the rims were incorrect. Tightened the nuts trying to keep them even in the wheel, it worked out just fine. Had the tire and wheel flat on the ground, think that helped a bit.



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