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Minneapolis Moline Tractors Discussion Forum
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g450 with loader PTO question

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windy ridge

05-11-2020 16:28:39




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so I got my g450/oliver 1365 operators manual today.in the section on the pto it says never leave pto engaged when not in use.With my tractor It seems I have to have the pto engaged to run the loader hydraulic pump mounted above the pto shaft.Is this correct?am I harming the pto leaving it engaged while running the loader.the manual makes no mention of this.thanks




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Traditional Farmer

05-18-2020 06:47:08




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 Re: g450 with loader PTO question in reply to windy ridge, 05-11-2020 16:28:39  
The key is to not leave the PTO clutch lever in the disengaged or up position,doesn't hurt for the PTO to run.What the book probably means is not to leave the PTO in the engaged position and then raise the PTO clutch lever up to shut off the PTO.When the PTO clutch lever is left up it puts pressure on the flywheel and crankshaft which will result in wearing out the thrust washers then it'll wear the crank against the block ruining both.That had been done to my Oliver 1365 4WD when I bought it,required a replacement block,crank,thrust washers,etc.

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Tramway Guy

05-15-2020 04:15:08




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 Re: g450 with loader PTO question in reply to windy ridge, 05-11-2020 16:28:39  
Sounds like the same issue that one of the Allis tractors had. Constant PTO engagement led to wearing on the engine thrust bearing. Their fix involved installing a second thrust bearing Externally against the front of the Crankshaft.



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windy ridge

05-15-2020 03:15:49




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 Re: g450 with loader PTO question in reply to windy ridge, 05-11-2020 16:28:39  
thanks

david Riehle

3597 windy ridge rd

Chillicothe,oh,45601

when running the bush hog should I have the pto lever up and the gearbox lever to the left?



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J. Schwiebert

05-14-2020 05:54:01




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 Re: g450 with loader PTO question in reply to windy ridge, 05-11-2020 16:28:39  
Send me your U. S. mail address and I will send you a copy of the Oliver bulletin. If I remember correctly you can take out a thrust bearing if you don't follow instructions. J.



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mmfan55

05-11-2020 18:32:28




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 Re: g450 with loader PTO question in reply to windy ridge, 05-11-2020 16:28:39  
You are correct. Loader pump operates off of upper PTO shaft. Unless loader leaks down badly: you can raise bucket to desired height and disengage PTO if running at road speeds. Not turning pump allows hydraulic fluid to be a little cooler. No highly significant difference, just minor. Also can do that if hooked to brush hog type mower. Then mower isn't turning when not in use



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Ill John

05-11-2020 17:53:41




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 Re: g450 with loader PTO question in reply to windy ridge, 05-11-2020 16:28:39  
I'm thinking they meant for safety reasons, having nothing to do with daily use or non use



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