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carvel minne farmer

02-28-2018 18:19:54




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straightened the radiadtor grill screen(built a screen straightening tool), primed and painted, built back plate for the hydraulic tank for 2nd m-5 (missing) using the one off the shop tractor for a pattern, like johnny cashes car one piece at a time :lol: third party image third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

07-15-2018 20:51:24




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
got the m-5 ready for haying today, still have more paint and body work to do, (this winters project) or as time permits. poured in fresh fuel, hooked up batt. and just touched the starter and she was running :lol: now just need a 4 or 5 day window from the weather gurus to get it done. third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

06-22-2018 21:02:35




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
some more progress on the m5 today. got the right o rings for the power steering installed, leaks stopped. some more pieces installed, getting ever closer to start up! third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

06-19-2018 20:38:27




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
good evening guys, working along on the mm m5 the last few days, got the fuel tank painted and installed, new circ heater and hoses, new rad hoses, dash, the air cleaner painted and in stalled, set up the new Donaldson precleaner for the air cleaner, battery box back on, getting it close to start up. third party image third party image third party image

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Lyndon - AB

06-01-2018 21:08:39




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
She's looking pretty smart with that new paint on her! I'm really looking forward to seeing her sparkle in the sun!



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carvel minne farmer

06-01-2018 19:33:45




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
got a bit more done on the m-5 today, still waiting on the snap rings for the power steering caps. installed all the hydraulic hoses for the 2 remotes, put the tank and levers back on, installed the electrical plug, and the rebuilt draw bar brackets and draw bar. the draw bar is now sitting center on the tractor not off to one side from the old bent broken side brackets. installed the manifold, it's nice to be finally putting it back toghter :lol: third party image third party image

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MNGB

05-28-2018 11:11:17




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
[quote="carvel minne farmer"](reply to post at 18:17:55 05/27/18) [/q

Looking good carvel minne, I was just about to ask if you had any updates thanks

GB in MN



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carvel minne farmer

05-27-2018 18:17:55




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
working on the m5 today, retorqued the heads, reset valves @ 12 and 18, resealed the power steering, ran in to an issue with the snap rings that hold the end plates in place. I believe they are original and a lot of wear on them with ridges that are quite pronounced, the end plates will be loose using the old ones so will order new ones tomorrow morning. have been working along prepping and painting. got the hood, fenders, tool box and fuel tank left to prep and paint. I should start reassembly this week (now where did that go??) some pics of the progress. third party image third party image third party image third party image third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

04-19-2018 20:18:52




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
good evening all a few weeks back bob lee from Kansas put a post on about cleaning up a farm site, he picked up a case tractor and a really cool old wagon among other things he mentioned finding a Minneapolis Moline manifold brand new that had been thrown in the metal dumpster! bob climbed in and retrieved it. this turned out to be new old stock and fit my m5, a few messages and emails back and forth, a couple of phone calls and I sent bob the money, he shipped from Kansas on april 13th and it arrived here this afternoon! bobs shipping and packaging skills ensured it arrived in one piece in great shape! thank you bob, i'm going to be putting this manifold on miss minne and the manifold I got from stieners will go in the box for the rebuild on miss minne's sister! it is things like this that make y.t. such a great site, guys like bob going that extra mile (and a little dumpster diving) are what make it work for all of us. thanks again bob. third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

04-19-2018 08:10:24




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
got some work done on the side panels under the hood today, welded up the cracked out bolt holes (vibration cracks) straightened the divots and wrinkles out of them. the 2 small panels by the fuel tank where nasty little buggers to get straight again! got them sanded down and prepped and primered. third party image third party image third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

04-19-2018 07:43:44




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
built a new power plug box for the back of the m5 (missing) and installed 5 pin trailer plug, (original was a 2 pin) the original was live from a 20 amp fuse on the dash, I will have one live circuit the same and one off a switch on the dash for lights. I plan on building a set of lights on magnets like the tow truck drivers use for towing vehicles and have them ready for my disc or cultivator if i'm coming home in the dark. also going to have a smv sign and dot reflector tape on the back of each, i'll be sticking to county back roads not out on any main highways but I still want to be SEEN :lol: third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

04-19-2018 07:31:59




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
tjv in mn contacted me on here he might have the bracket I need for the charlyn valve, he went checking and found it! check out the restoration job he did on his m5 (beautiful) on the forum here. sent tjv some money and he shipped me the bracket and some other parts got it installed last night! third party image

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carvel minne farmer

04-18-2018 22:26:07




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
Erick brought the new side brackets and slide plate for the draw bar assembly, we installed them and test fitted everything, fits right on, the side brackets were built of wider angle iron and a plate added to beef them up. and so the bolt holes were not so close to the edge. ground the corners of the new brackets round so I don't cut my head or arms open sliding under the tractor :lol: third party image third party image third party image third party image
the old brackets for comparison
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carvel minne farmer

04-18-2018 22:01:06




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
another to do project on the long list :cry: the power steering is leaking from both ends!! I went to the city today for welder parts, and just for giggles I stopped at the agco dealer (used to be selmac sales) and asked laura at the parts counter about the seals and gaskets for the m5 power steering, gave her the numbers for the m5, a couple of clicks on the computer she had the diagram for the power steering up, checked off the parts we need 2 more clicks she said yes no problem will be here in a week!! sweet! so doing some quick thinking I asked about the 3 rad hoses? 2 more clicks, yes will be here next week! sweet! so I asked about the 3 1" rubber 90's under the hydraulic tank? yes will be here next week!! laura told me she can get Moline parts easier and quicker than allis or massey (their brands!) I was very surprised and very happy :D third party image third party image third party image third party image

so if you own a Moline and need parts give agco and they just might surprise you :lol:

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carvel minne farmer

04-18-2018 21:31:53




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
took the manifold off, large hole in it! used my nutcracker so I wouldn't break or bend up the manifold studs. the nutcracker splits the nuts open so you can just take them off with your fingers, and not wreck the threads. third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

04-18-2018 21:20:43




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
got the hydraulic control levers off and hoses and lines disconnected pulled the tank out, found 2 brackets for the charlyn valves laying in the muck in the bottom. one bracket was broken, cleaned everything up and the valves look ok, cleaned up the one good bracket and put it back on the bottom of the valve. those brackets hold the valve steady so they are not flopping all over (that's why the hydraulics were not responding like they should) now got to find another bracket and we will be good to go.
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got the hydraulic tank cleaned up, took the filter out of the tank and cleaned it up (was actually pretty clean.) sanded and primed some pieces, levers, piping.

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carvel minne farmer

04-18-2018 20:56:06




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
good evening unc, the m5 is coming, worked today on the throttle linkage, took the arm plates off the govenor and welded all the worn spots back up to level,(stich and go with mig) put a narrow shim washer in the throttle linkage plate to take up the slop, straightened the rod and now when you move the throttle lever the governor is moving. the sae-200 model # was used for welders built for the military, and export with different engines than the f-162 or 163 continental flathead. also different weld control and wiring. good machines they where basically a sa-200. and that's why they weld so nice unc. you have a keeper there.

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unc

04-18-2018 09:08:47




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
Good morning CMF. The M5 is coming nicely. I've had a similar situation with my favourite U model. Fortunately, the drawbar and associated parts are made from off-the-rack materials. With the help of a parts manual, replacement parts were easy to fabricate. Nice new painted parts sure clean up the back end.
I've been following your progress on the hydraulic setup. My GVI is in about the same shape, so one of these days, I'll have to start on that.
Unrelated question- what is the difference between a Lincoln SA-200, and an SAE-200? My good old welder uses a MH Chrysler engine on an SAE-200. No idle kick down, it runs at a constant speed, and has the dual continuous control set-up. An oldie but goody. unc

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carvel minne farmer

04-18-2018 08:32:56




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
removed the tin work off the tractor, then pulled the bent up draw bar assembly off, found out why it was all bent up! the first owner had taken the draw bar out and installed it upside down?? why I don't know but (mabe to lower it for some implement?) being upside down it was putting upward force on the side brackets and slide plate bending and splitting them :evil: so will need new side brackets and straighten the slide plate. third party image third party image third party image third party image third party image

draw bar pin had an S bend form the draw bar not being square to the pin. sent the side brackets and slide plate to ericks for him to build 2 new side brackets and straighten slide plate. I built new draw bar pin and lock plate primed and painted. third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

04-17-2018 21:34:35




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
pulled the bent fenders off and sent them to my friend ericks for straightening, some before and after pics. third party image third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

04-17-2018 17:23:42




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
starting on the long list of repairs, third party image

I had ordered a new manifold from steiners and it showed up broken so took it into clan machine for repair,
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got it back good as new :lol: third party image
fenders all bent up took them off and sent to my buddy ericks for straightening, Erick did an awesome job on them, some before and after pics. third party image third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

04-17-2018 17:23:01




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
starting on the long list of repairs, third party image

I had ordered a new manifold from steiners and it showed up broken so took it into clan machine for repair,
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got it back good as new :lol: third party image
fenders all bent up took them off and sent to my buddy ericks for straightening, Erick did an awesome job on them, some before and after pics. third party image third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

04-17-2018 17:21:32




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
starting on the long list of repairs, third party image

I had ordered a new manifold from steiners and it showed up broken so took it into clan machine for repair,
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got it back good as new :lol: third party image
fenders all bent up took them off and sent to my buddy ericks for straightening, Erick did an awesome job on them, some before and after pics. third party image third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

04-17-2018 17:20:37




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
starting on the long list of repairs, third party image

I had ordered a new manifold from steiners and it showed up broken so took it into clan machine for repair,
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got it back good as new :lol: third party image
fenders all bent up took them off and sent to my buddy ericks for straightening, Erick did an awesome job on them, some before and after pics. third party image third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

04-17-2018 17:03:43




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
miss mine in the shop and starting on the repairs and rebuild.
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carvel minne farmer

04-17-2018 16:50:32




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
after sitting most of the winter finally get a spot cleared out in the shop and got started on the rebuild. in the meantime I had gone out and got miss mine's sister (40 serial #'s apart) and a 24t j.d. baler , this one is not running so went out with a tandem roll back hooked up the m5, drove over to the baler rolled the m5 back hooked up the baler and home.

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miss mine rolling in the shop
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carvel minne farmer

04-17-2018 16:19:56




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
got the m5 home, ran it around a bit to warm it up, drove it in the shop and pulled the drain plug on the oil pan and went to bed! that was a long day. next day finished the oil change,new oil filter, cleaned and changed oil in the air cleaner, greased and went out the back and hooked up the j.d. 336 baler and brought it up to get ready for the 2nd. hay cutting. third party image third party image

after getting miss mine and the baler ready we went to work! baled a 155 bales in 45 minutes, the m5 is one smooth baling tractor and a pleasure to drive, the live pto, amplitorque tranny and torque to no end make baling a breeze.
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during this time I get started on the restoration part, went out to westlock tractor parts (made a few trips) picked up 4 used 18.4 x34 firestone tires in nice shape and 1 front steering tire in nice shape. the rims where the start of this restoration
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carvel minne farmer

04-17-2018 15:48:16




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
went out the next week with a gallon of atf, pulled the plugs and poured a quart into each cylinder. looked the tractor over and made a list of items i'd need to get her running?? 4 weeks later went back and got started, pulled the roof and panels off blew out 20 years worth of poplar leafs, twigs, nests, cobwebs and fuzz! changed out the plugs, plug wires, most of the wiring harness,(rotten and dozs of splices) new choke cable, new battery, new fuel line and filter. Harold took the carb into work and rebuilt it, poured in 10 gallons of premium fuel with a little 2 cycle oil in it. Harold climbed up on the seat hit the starter and she was running on the 1st revolution!! third party image

Harold had to cut it out of the trees :lol: third party image

first time she rolled under her own power in 20 years, Harold at the wheel
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I just had to take her for a spin :D third party image
loading up to go to her new home! the trip home was a little slow with all the weight on the back the trailer wanted to fishtail so kept it down below 50 mph.

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carvel minne farmer

04-17-2018 09:27:40




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
ok as per fdt860's suggestion, I will put all pics and progress under this post. so here go's. first lets back up to the beginning, the first day I saw the m5, getting her up and running, and the trip home. third party image third party image third party image
Harold had pulled it out of the poplar trees along his fence row the evening before, my first impression was wow it's a nice straight tractor, loved the style, 2nd impression hhmmm needs some tlc, I wonder if it'll run?

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carvel minne farmer

03-12-2018 18:00:19




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
draw bar day, pulled out the draw bar, the side brackets that hold the swing plate and sent the side brackets with my buddy to build me new ones, (he has a 50 ton press) and straighten the draw bar plate that has the roller on it to swing side to side. I built new c plate for up in the end draw bar holder, and new draw bar pin, cut and welded plates on the end of the draw bar to bring it back up to level, was worn down into the draw bar about a 1/4" on each side from implements and the first owner flipping it upside down! some pics of todays work. third party image third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

03-09-2018 19:12:43




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
did some work on the front side panels, straightening, weld up some fatique cracks around the bolt holes, sanding and prepping for paint. slow but sure it's coming along. third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

03-06-2018 19:40:51




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
good evening howard here's some update pics of the m-5 progress, still taking things off to get at the leaking old hyd. hoses. now at the point of draining the tank and pulling it, then will take all the hoses and lines into my local hyd. shop to build new ones. third party image third party image third party image

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carvel minne farmer

03-06-2018 17:16:26




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see sorry about that morepower :oops: but sending a snow storm south or east is kind of hit or miss, sv. was saying he needed snow so I sent him the storm that hit us last weekend and he got a good dump, but once it crosses the border it must have hung a left after his place! so it could be sv.'s fault :lol:



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03-06-2018 16:32:25




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
We got hit in south central Mn pretty hard the last day or so with snow. Should have guessed it was your fault sending people snow!



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03-06-2018 12:49:24




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
[quote="CVPost-Howard H."](quoted from post at 09:20:59 03/06/18)
That sounds good! ha It was up to 80 the other day, so we haven't exactly had the full winter experience here... Not sure if it is global warming - or just our normal unpredictable weather. But with
the winter wheat sure needing a drink, send some of that snow our way!

Got any update pics of the M5? will get you some update pics soon howard and I will add them to this post. working on getting the hydraulic tank out and all the rotten hoses changed out. prepping and painting some more pieces. my hot water tank in the shop crashed again for the 3rd. time, so will be going to town and get a 50 gallon electric and be done with this damn computorized gas one
:evil: need the hot water to wash all the muck and oil off the back end and the power steering cylinder. now be carefull asking me to send you snow howard!! check out sv. cummins post and rusty6"s post how much snow I sent them :lol:

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carvel minne farmer

03-01-2018 20:07:20




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see well howard just jump in the truck or the plane and come on up, what size coveralls of do you wear? i'll get a pair for you, got a warm place to sleep, wife,s a great cook, you can work along any hours you want on miss minne, the list is as long as your arm :lol: heated shop, nice and warm you can even go skiing or skidooing on the back field, still got a foot or so of snow, more coming this weekend :lol: you'll have a ball. we can't have you laying around getting bored or you might get in trouble :lol:

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Howard H.

03-06-2018 08:20:59




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 03-01-2018 20:07:20  

That sounds good! ha It was up to 80 the other day, so we haven't exactly had the full winter experience here... Not sure if it is global warming - or just our normal unpredictable weather. But with the winter wheat sure needing a drink, send some of that snow our way!

Got any update pics of the M5?


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Howard H.

03-01-2018 19:32:23




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 Re: progress on the m-5 today in reply to carvel minne farmer, 02-28-2018 18:19:54  

You are making me feel lazy, CMF! Ha ha

Looking good!

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