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MF 40 (Navy) tractor - PTO/Hyd question?

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01-14-2022 17:47:48

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I am looking at a MF 40. It's similar to the MF 40 industrial tractor I have. But this one was used by the navy. (Has a navy data plate) The transmission in it is a torque converter setup instead of clutch. There is no rear PTO shaft and no select lever on the left side. There is a hyd control station like mine for the 3pt lift bars. And under the seat there's a shaft there with the splines for the arms. But all the 3pt linkage isn't there. And there are pipes/caps to cover the splines. The shaft can be spun by hand and I can hear it clank at the ends of it's travel, but I'm guessing it's not connected to the cylinder. I know I could pull the plate off the top where the standpipe comes through to see if it's there and connected to the pump. But does anyone know if these transmission even have a provision for a hydraulic pump where the PTO shaft would be? And could a PTO output shaft even be installed with a selector cover to add PTO to one?

I found a site that had a little discussion about these navy tractors. But there doesn't seem to be a lot of info out there on them. Mainly trying to see if it could be made useful by adding/getting the 3pt lift working and adding PTO.

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01-14-2022 18:34:34

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 Re: MF 40 (Navy) tractor - PTO/Hyd question? in reply to patracy, 01-14-2022 17:47:48  
The four speed torque convertor drive tractors could be had with the three point hydraulic pump, but it's transmission driven. The PTO used on these models is not desired as the shaft will stop and change direction when the reverse pedal is used. That's why most do not have a PTO shaft installed, the three point pump and PTO both stop when tractor is stopped.

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01-14-2022 18:14:04

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 Re: MF 40 (Navy) tractor - PTO/Hyd question? in reply to patracy, 01-14-2022 17:47:48  
Looks like I found out over here what this is. Basically it's a backhoe/loader, but without the backhoe or loader.

Kinda limited use given the fact it doesn't have a loader or anything.

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01-16-2022 05:58:16

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 Re: MF 40 (Navy) tractor - PTO/Hyd question? in reply to patracy, 01-14-2022 18:14:04  
IF this tractor is from Ga. I too was interested as I have a 204 that could be used to supply the needed components for pto. I'm still thinking of doing it and putting on my fel and finding a backhoe.

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