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MF200 handbrake stuck on

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mf200jim

09-13-2021 14:48:36




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Discovered my MF200's handbrake is rusted in the 'on' position. Both the button in the handle, and the ratchet pawl appear to be seized. The rod between the two fractured, that's how I know they're both stuck.

The handle seems to have been given a really good hard pull at some point as it can't be raised any further easily, except with a pry bar.

Sure I'll get it loose given time & elbow grease but I'm wondering - could the handbrake being stuck hard on like this, be causing the problem I'm having with the right hand steering lever having no effect whilst the left lever works fine?

My other thread 'MF200 how to adjust skid steering' comes up blank (although it's ok in Classic View, only blank in Modern View) - pretty sure the root cause is a partially redacted link I included to a pdf diagram which might have been seen as spam. Sorry to Admin for that, was only intended to try & illuminate my post but will be more careful of the TOS in future. Classic View won't let me delete the troublesome link :-(

As far as I can tell without a manual, the steering lever linkages outside of the drive case seem fine & all intact, both operate ok in a similar fashion to each other.

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marloweg

09-16-2021 19:10:19




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 Re: MF200 handbrake stuck on in reply to mf200jim, 09-13-2021 14:48:36  
do not adjust with out the book you have to make two adjustments the disengage and second is braking and they must be set right



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mf200jim

09-14-2021 16:30:12




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 Re: MF200 handbrake stuck on in reply to mf200jim, 09-13-2021 14:48:36  
No problem pushing against a 6ft hill of concrete slabs with the dozer blade low down, seemed to push hard with both tracks. Couldn't actually get it to 'wheelspin' the tracks as such, the engine just bogged right down, then I got scared of breaking something, so I stopped pushing.

Freed off the handbrake. The handle turned out to contain the button on a rod and a spring, it was massively corroded inside. Oxy torch to red heat before I could get the innards to budge, but eventually worked it out. Rod and button survived but spring lost it's temper, think it was fractured through rust anyway. Managed to find a near enough spring to replace. Pawl also rusted solid, same deal with the oxy to free it off.
Got it all back together and doing what it should do, but, turned out I was wrong, it wasn't seized in to 'on' position, it was actually off. It clicks right up way higher now and feels like it's applying something.

No change to the steering, left lever does what it should, right lever has no effect. Linkages seem & move OK, fearing the problem's somewhere inside the rear gear box with the right steering clutch not disengaging &/or the right steering brake parts not doing as they should.

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mf200jim

09-13-2021 17:19:22




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 Re: MF200 handbrake stuck on in reply to mf200jim, 09-13-2021 14:48:36  
Got it on a lovely tarmac drive at the moment while I weld up the roll cage, so don't want to try doing anything too aggressive for fear of ripping up the ground. Soon as the cage is done & I've got the handbrake freed off I'll take it back over to the rough ground & try pushing a hill of concrete rubble I have, & see if both spockets keep turning.

Thanks for the manuals tip, when I say "my" MF200 it's actually my neighbours, but I'll recommend he gets a copy if he's going to keep it.. which I hope he does! I'm trying to stop him giving up too easy ;-)
This post was edited by mf200jim on 09/13/2021 at 05:26 pm.

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Jim.ME

09-13-2021 17:04:23




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 Re: MF200 handbrake stuck on in reply to mf200jim, 09-13-2021 14:48:36  
After taking a look at your post on Classic I would say the problem is the link you posted. Instead of a site name it says ex-ternal link, usually a sign a competitor (YT sales parts) website is the source of your pdf. It kicked my reply a couple times from Modern because I used the word external (without the - in it) followed directly by link.

Service, Parts and Operator's manuals are available for the 200s and 200Bs at AGCOpubs. I suggest you get a set of the right ones for your machine. A note on the service manuals. I also suggest purchasing the "packet" option and put it in your own 3 ring binder instead of the "assembly", where they put it in a binder (that assembly, the binder, and more weight/size to ship adds to your cost).

https://www.agcopubs.com/

Just something to check. If you push hard against something do both tracks spin? If you have a weak steering clutch on the left it could be slipping when you try to turn right. The opposite side from the lever you pull has to drive the machine in a turn.

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Jim.ME

09-13-2021 16:51:37




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 Re: MF200 handbrake stuck on in reply to mf200jim, 09-13-2021 14:48:36  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

After taking a look at your post on Classic I would say the problem is the link you posted. Instead of a site name it says external link, usually a sign a competitor (YT sales parts) website is the source of your pdf.

Service, Parts and Operator's manuals are available for the 200s and 200Bs at AGCOpubs. I suggest you get a set of the right ones for your machine. A note on the service manuals. I suggest purchasing the "packet" option and put it in your own 3 ring binder instead of the "assembly", where they put it in a binder (that assembly, the binder, and more weight/size to ship adds to your cost). I just had to remove the link to AGCOpubs because of the spam filters so you will need search AGCOpubs.

Just something to check. If you push hard against something do both tracks spin? If you have a weak steering clutch on the left it could be slipping when you try to turn right. The opposite side from the lever you pull has to drive the machine in a turn.

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Jim.ME

09-13-2021 16:50:29




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 Re: MF200 handbrake stuck on in reply to mf200jim, 09-13-2021 14:48:36  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

After taking a look at your post on Classic I would say the problem is the link you posted. Instead of a site name it says external link, usually a sign a competitor (YT sales parts) website is the source of your pdf.

Service, Parts and Operator's manuals are available for the 200s and 200Bs at AGCOpubs. I suggest you get a set of the right ones for your machine. A note on the service manuals. I suggest purchasing the "packet" option and put it in your own 3 ring binder instead of the "assembly", where they put it in a binder (that assembly, the binder, and more weight/size to ship adds to your cost). I just had to remove the link to AGCOpubs because of the spam filters so you will need to copy and paste it in your search engine.

https://www.agcopubs.com/

Just something to check. If you push hard against something do both tracks spin? If you have a weak steering clutch on the left it could be slipping when you try to turn right. The opposite side from the lever you pull has to drive the machine in a turn.

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Jim.ME

09-13-2021 16:43:46




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 Re: MF200 handbrake stuck on in reply to mf200jim, 09-13-2021 14:48:36  
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After taking a look at your post on Classic I would say the problem is the link you posted. Instead of a site name it says external link, usually a sign a competitor (YT sales parts) website is the source of your pdf.

Service, Parts and Operator's manuals are available for the 200s and 200Bs at AGCOpubs. I suggest you get a set of the right ones for your machine. A note on the service manuals. I suggest purchasing the "packet" option and put it in your own 3 ring binder instead of the "assembly", where they put it in a binder (that assembly, the binder, and more weight/size to ship adds to your cost).

https://www.agcopubs.com/

Just something to check. If you push hard against something do both tracks spin? If you have a weak steering clutch on the left it could be slipping when you try to turn right. The opposite side from the lever you pull has to drive the machine in a turn.

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