Massey 250, 240 and 231 steering play

I own a Massey 250 and understand the 231 and 240 may be the same. It has power assist steering with the cylinders on the the front axle, one at each side, a turnbuckle and a spool valve under the steering wheel below the dash. My issue is not with the steering but with a 1/4 turn of play in the steering. I cultivate corn and beans and need tight steering for a couple other things as well.

I have been told the steering drive link that attaches at the front of each wheel offers a way to loosen the nut and extend the length to take the slack out of the wheel, but upon further reading it appears those are for toe in and not play in the wheel. Can anyone confirm and can anyone PLEASE tell me how to get the play out of the steering? Is it in the shimming in the box, is it in the turnbuckle, or in fact at the drive link?

Any help is GREATLY appreciated.....
 
(quoted from post at 06:14:46 08/11/21) I own a Massey 250 and understand the 231 and 240 may be the same. It has power assist steering with the cylinders on the the front axle, one at each side, a turnbuckle and a spool valve under the steering wheel below the dash. My issue is not with the steering but with a 1/4 turn of play in the steering. I cultivate corn and beans and need tight steering for a couple other things as well.

I have been told the steering drive link that attaches at the front of each wheel offers a way to loosen the nut and extend the length to take the slack out of the wheel, but upon further reading it appears those are for toe in and not play in the wheel. Can anyone confirm and can anyone PLEASE tell me how to get the play out of the steering? Is it in the shimming in the box, is it in the turnbuckle, or in fact at the drive link?

Any help is GREATLY appreciated.....

Do the cylinders instantly react when to turn the wheel? The bushings on the ends of the cylinders can wear and cause some play. I ran a 250 that got a new cylinder one one side, you could actually see the piston move slightly before the wheels turned, new cylinder made the wheels turn instantly rather than slight delay.
 
(quoted from post at 21:41:00 08/11/21)
(quoted from post at 06:14:46 08/11/21) I own a Massey 250 and understand the 231 and 240 may be the same. It has power assist steering with the cylinders on the the front axle, one at each side, a turnbuckle and a spool valve under the steering wheel below the dash. My issue is not with the steering but with a 1/4 turn of play in the steering. I cultivate corn and beans and need tight steering for a couple other things as well.

I have been told the steering drive link that attaches at the front of each wheel offers a way to loosen the nut and extend the length to take the slack out of the wheel, but upon further reading it appears those are for toe in and not play in the wheel. Can anyone confirm and can anyone PLEASE tell me how to get the play out of the steering? Is it in the shimming in the box, is it in the turnbuckle, or in fact at the drive link?

Any help is GREATLY appreciated.....

Do the cylinders instantly react when to turn the wheel? The bushings on the ends of the cylinders can wear and cause some play. I ran a 250 that got a new cylinder one one side, you could actually see the piston move slightly before the wheels turned, new cylinder made the wheels turn instantly rather than slight delay.

Are you talking about the cylinders at the front wheels. Or the cylinder under the dash?
 
(quoted from post at 21:41:00 08/11/21)
(quoted from post at 06:14:46 08/11/21) I own a Massey 250 and understand the 231 and 240 may be the same. It has power assist steering with the cylinders on the the front axle, one at each side, a turnbuckle and a spool valve under the steering wheel below the dash. My issue is not with the steering but with a 1/4 turn of play in the steering. I cultivate corn and beans and need tight steering for a couple other things as well.

I have been told the steering drive link that attaches at the front of each wheel offers a way to loosen the nut and extend the length to take the slack out of the wheel, but upon further reading it appears those are for toe in and not play in the wheel. Can anyone confirm and can anyone PLEASE tell me how to get the play out of the steering? Is it in the shimming in the box, is it in the turnbuckle, or in fact at the drive link?

Any help is GREATLY appreciated.....

Do the cylinders instantly react when to turn the wheel? The bushings on the ends of the cylinders can wear and cause some play. I ran a 250 that got a new cylinder one one side, you could actually see the piston move slightly before the wheels turned, new cylinder made the wheels turn instantly rather than slight delay.

Are you talking about the cylinders at the front wheels. Or the cylinder under the dash?
 
(quoted from post at 21:41:00 08/11/21)
(quoted from post at 06:14:46 08/11/21) I own a Massey 250 and understand the 231 and 240 may be the same. It has power assist steering with the cylinders on the the front axle, one at each side, a turnbuckle and a spool valve under the steering wheel below the dash. My issue is not with the steering but with a 1/4 turn of play in the steering. I cultivate corn and beans and need tight steering for a couple other things as well.

I have been told the steering drive link that attaches at the front of each wheel offers a way to loosen the nut and extend the length to take the slack out of the wheel, but upon further reading it appears those are for toe in and not play in the wheel. Can anyone confirm and can anyone PLEASE tell me how to get the play out of the steering? Is it in the shimming in the box, is it in the turnbuckle, or in fact at the drive link?

Any help is GREATLY appreciated.....

Do the cylinders instantly react when to turn the wheel? The bushings on the ends of the cylinders can wear and cause some play. I ran a 250 that got a new cylinder one one side, you could actually see the piston move slightly before the wheels turned, new cylinder made the wheels turn instantly rather than slight delay.

Are you talking about the cylinders at the front wheels. Or the cylinder under the dash?
 
(quoted from post at 16:41:00 08/11/21)
(quoted from post at 06:14:46 08/11/21) I own a Massey 250 and understand the 231 and 240 may be the same. It has power assist steering with the cylinders on the the front axle, one at each side, a turnbuckle and a spool valve under the steering wheel below the dash. My issue is not with the steering but with a 1/4 turn of play in the steering. I cultivate corn and beans and need tight steering for a couple other things as well.

I have been told the steering drive link that attaches at the front of each wheel offers a way to loosen the nut and extend the length to take the slack out of the wheel, but upon further reading it appears those are for toe in and not play in the wheel. Can anyone confirm and can anyone PLEASE tell me how to get the play out of the steering? Is it in the shimming in the box, is it in the turnbuckle, or in fact at the drive link?

Any help is GREATLY appreciated.....

Here is a link to a manual that includes some info on several tractors, including the 250, that might help you.

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1245637/Massey-Ferguson-Mf230.html
 
(quoted from post at 14:00:26 08/11/21)
(quoted from post at 21:41:00 08/11/21)
(quoted from post at 06:14:46 08/11/21) I own a Massey 250 and understand the 231 and 240 may be the same. It has power assist steering with the cylinders on the the front axle, one at each side, a turnbuckle and a spool valve under the steering wheel below the dash. My issue is not with the steering but with a 1/4 turn of play in the steering. I cultivate corn and beans and need tight steering for a couple other things as well.

I have been told the steering drive link that attaches at the front of each wheel offers a way to loosen the nut and extend the length to take the slack out of the wheel, but upon further reading it appears those are for toe in and not play in the wheel. Can anyone confirm and can anyone PLEASE tell me how to get the play out of the steering? Is it in the shimming in the box, is it in the turnbuckle, or in fact at the drive link?

Any help is GREATLY appreciated.....

Do the cylinders instantly react when to turn the wheel? The bushings on the ends of the cylinders can wear and cause some play. I ran a 250 that got a new cylinder one one side, you could actually see the piston move slightly before the wheels turned, new cylinder made the wheels turn instantly rather than slight delay.

Are you talking about the cylinders at the front wheels. Or the cylinder under the dash?

At front wheels. I had to replace a seal on the valve for the steering wheel on a 240, the turn buckle can be adjusted, but it pretty well has to be set to give equal response left and right.
 
Sounds like the steering system on the MF 65. Play in the
linkage that operates the valve that controls the steering
cylinder needs to be eliminated. The turnbuckle is used to
center the control valve. Any play in the steering box and
associated linkage will affect steering tightness.
 

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