NEW! / old Massey Ferguson M35 diesel.. Could use a litt

greymond

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I just got this old M35 Massey Ferguson diesel from a good friend. My plan is to get it up and going and spruce it up. I had to order a new ignition switch for it. The old one is froze up. A good cleaning and an oil filter and change and I'll try to fire it up.
The biggest issues are the rear wheels (outer rims). They are completely shot. Rusted out and won't hold a tire. Can someone help me out how to go about finding these rims and wheels? We don't have any used tractor places anywhere near where I live and I'll probably have to order on line. Any other advice or info on this old tractor would be great!
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The only advice i can give is this. Get two pieces of angle cut to fit around the shaft on your loader
cylinders. Stand them on your cylinders and tie them to hold your loader up. What you have under it is death
waiting to happen. Not trying to be a know it all just don't want someone to get hurt.
 
(quoted from post at 14:39:18 08/02/21) The only advice i can give is this. Get two pieces of angle cut to fit around the shaft on your loader
cylinders. Stand them on your cylinders and tie them to hold your loader up. What you have under it is death
waiting to happen. Not trying to be a know it all just don't want someone to get hurt.

x 2 on Old Ford Mechanic's advice.

If you give your general location someone might have an idea on a source for used near you that you are unaware of.
 
(quoted from post at 19:39:18 08/02/21) The only advice i can give is this. Get two pieces of angle cut to fit around the shaft on your loader
cylinders. Stand them on your cylinders and tie them to hold your loader up. What you have under it is death
waiting to happen. Not trying to be a know it all just don't want someone to get hurt.

Good Advice.
The loader was removed shortly after I blocked it up with that lumber.
 
Got it going!! The tractor sat in a barn/shed for years. The owner didnt start it for at least 6 years, probably more. I drained the oil and changed out the filters and fuel, cleaned the fuel system and added fresh fluids. I put a new switch in and the tractor literally fired on the 3rd crank! It turns out this motor was rebuilt less than 100 hours ago. The owner has all the rebuild receipts.
The new issue is I am not sure if this is a "double clutch system"? The PTO is not working when I engage it up or down on the lever. Not sure what is going on? I understand there is an adjustment? My ford 3400 doesn't have a PTO adjustment so this a little strange for me. I also may need to adjust the clutch. My research on these possible adjustments is not going well. Any help would be appreciated. Also, the pump for the loader is not pumping. I assume it is shot? Not sure exactly how it works but if it is connected to the crank I assume it should be spewing HF everywhere. I pulled the loader off. In one of the photos you can see the in and return line to the loader. Now that the pump is off do I need to block these ports? NO fluid is coming out.

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(quoted from post at 11:27:39 08/07/21) Got it going!! The tractor sat in a barn/shed for years. The owner didnt start it for at least 6 years, probably more. I drained the oil and changed out the filters and fuel, cleaned the fuel system and added fresh fluids. I put a new switch in and the tractor literally fired on the 3rd crank! It turns out this motor was rebuilt less than 100 hours ago. The owner has all the rebuild receipts.
The new issue is I am not sure if this is a "double clutch system"? The PTO is not working when I engage it up or down on the lever. Not sure what is going on? I understand there is an adjustment? My ford 3400 doesn't have a PTO adjustment so this a little strange for me. I also may need to adjust the clutch. My research on these possible adjustments is not going well. Any help would be appreciated. Also, the pump for the loader is not pumping. I assume it is shot? Not sure exactly how it works but if it is connected to the crank I assume it should be spewing HF everywhere. I pulled the loader off. In one of the photos you can see the in and return line to the loader. Now that the pump is off do I need to block these ports? NO fluid is coming out.

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When you took the loader off you took away the oil reservoir, it had no oil to spew. The big line to the loader frame (which is the reservoir) is the pump suction. The smaller line is the pressure line to the loader valve. If the front pump was connected to the crank and you ran it with the loader off, it basically ran dry. It may well have been damaged by doing that. If you have removed the pump I would say plug or otherwise seal those ports up to keep dirt out of it until you decide to do something with it. I'm not sure if you removed the pump as well as the loader, so if the pump is still on the tractor remove it, do not run it without oil or with plugged ports, it may be salvageable. Also plug or otherwise seal any hose openings on the loader to keep dirt and moisture out.

The SNW may mean S for standard Chassis, N for Perkins A3.152 engine and W for Multi-power transmission, and 235997 would make it a 1963.

Post a couple pictures to show your clutch pedal and the linkage.
 
(quoted from post at 17:14:03 08/07/21)
(quoted from post at 11:27:39 08/07/21) Got it going!! The tractor sat in a barn/shed for years. The owner didnt start it for at least 6 years, probably more. I drained the oil and changed out the filters and fuel, cleaned the fuel system and added fresh fluids. I put a new switch in and the tractor literally fired on the 3rd crank! It turns out this motor was rebuilt less than 100 hours ago. The owner has all the rebuild receipts.
The new issue is I am not sure if this is a "double clutch system"? The PTO is not working when I engage it up or down on the lever. Not sure what is going on? I understand there is an adjustment? My ford 3400 doesn't have a PTO adjustment so this a little strange for me. I also may need to adjust the clutch. My research on these possible adjustments is not going well. Any help would be appreciated. Also, the pump for the loader is not pumping. I assume it is shot? Not sure exactly how it works but if it is connected to the crank I assume it should be spewing HF everywhere. I pulled the loader off. In one of the photos you can see the in and return line to the loader. Now that the pump is off do I need to block these ports? NO fluid is coming out.

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When you took the loader off you took away the oil reservoir, it had no oil to spew. The big line to the loader frame (which is the reservoir) is the pump suction. The smaller line is the pressure line to the loader valve. If the front pump was connected to the crank and you ran it with the loader off, it basically ran dry. It may well have been damaged by doing that. If you have removed the pump I would say plug or otherwise seal those ports up to keep dirt out of it until you decide to do something with it. I'm not sure if you removed the pump as well as the loader, so if the pump is still on the tractor remove it, do not run it without oil or with plugged ports, it may be salvageable. Also plug or otherwise seal any hose openings on the loader to keep dirt and moisture out.

The SNW may mean S for standard Chassis, N for Perkins A3.152 engine and W for Multi-power transmission, and 235997 would make it a 1963.

Post a couple pictures to show your clutch pedal and the linkage.
The loader was not working when I got the tractor. The PO said it stopped working long back. At this point I'll remove it and see if someone wants the entire loader and pump. The loader is not in good shape. I have a 3400 ford with a good loader so it's not something I plan on restoring .
Here is the clutch setup...

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This post was edited by greymond on 08/15/2021 at 12:15 pm.
 
does anyone know what tractors this loader I have will fit? And what it would sell for? The pump needs to be either rebuilt or replaced. The hoses are all new and there are no cracks. Only rusty but no rot.

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This post was edited by greymond on 08/15/2021 at 08:24 am.
 
My 1963 MF 35 X 3 cylinder Diesel had the EXACT same loader as your picture.

The loader was sold here in Western Canada as the Malco (spelling) and or Allied brand.

The loaders were installed on Fergusons TEA-20's TO-30's T0-20's MF 35's TO-35's and several Ford N Models..

Except for the John Deere AR AXEL, the front axels were NEVER designed to carry the weight of these loaders in my opinion.

A well designed low cost loader for it's time..

Seen one sell in 2019 that looked to be excellent condition...NO Hyd PUMP...$250.00
At some point around 1978 ?, I removed the loader from my MF 35 X and installed on our John Deere AR

We have a saw mill, that sawed 1000's of thousands of board feet of pine and spruce 2 X 10 and 2 X 12 planks.

The John Deere AR was the Tractor used to move all saw logs to the mill deck..

The RAMS were switched over to double acting cylinders,removed from a loader off a MF 88 Diesel Tractor.

Bob..

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WOW! Thats really neat! I really like seeing this older stuff in action. Mine is a Malco. I'll probably put mine up for sale and see what happens. It is in good condition and I would hate to see it sit here and rot when it could be used.
Thanks for those photos Bob! Those are great!

This post was edited by greymond on 08/15/2021 at 12:14 pm.
 
Update on the M35
I ended up cutting the pin on the 3 point. I couldnt get it to budge. I even put the torch to it and no deal. I had a credit at Tractor Supply so I'll get a new setup.
NEW TIRES!! YEE HAW!
Found a rim at Cross Creek Tractor. Reasonable cost and the shipping wasn't too bad. The rim is in great shape! Took about a week to get to me. I think they are in Alabama.
I painted the rim and back half of the tractor while I had the wheels off. I'll sand and paint the front later on. And that leads me to my questions. Does anyone have the paint code for the M35 (the red color on the hood and fenders? My book doesn't have it and the local paint store can't find it. I need the code or the name of the color. I know there were as many as 5 different colors on those. Mine is the Perkins Deluxe M35

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