Found wadded up steel in my oil pan. MF65 diesel.

Greetings! New here. I recently bought a non-running MF65 with a Perkins diesel engine. Cleaned up the fuel system and got it running. It runs well, has 40+ lbs of oil pressure. So, I warmed it up and proceeded to do an oil change. There was a slight bit of water in the oil...probably from me pressure washing it on the way home while it was still on the trailer. I drained the oil, then removed the sump screen. After the sump screen came off I found three separate pieces of wadded up steel in the sump . What in the world could these be? I looked up into the crankcase at the rods and oil pump...they don't seem beat up. I am hoping someone here can tell me what these are. I have pictures and will post if i need to but i dont think they will tell you much more than i have described. Thanks ahead of time. :shock:

Pictures would be helpful but you may not be able to post
them until you have a certain number of messages posted
(part of the forum software to prevent unwanted pictures).
First question- is it magnetic? I would take the oil filter and
carefully cut it open. Try to avoid spreading metal from the out
wrapper of the filter into it. Then use a sharp knife and cut a 1-
2 high and similar length section of the pleated media. Leave
it folded up like an accordion and put it a vice and squeeze.
Dab the oil off and keep squeezing until no more comes out.
Remove it from the vice and open it out and see what you
have. A few random shiny pieces are normal, lots are not.

Might be three of the four piece crankshaft thrust washer set..

(quoted from post at 03:11:03 04/02/21) Pictures would be helpful but you may not be able to post
them until you have a certain number of messages posted
(part of the forum software to prevent unwanted pictures).
First question- is it magnetic? I would take the oil filter and
carefully cut it open. Try to avoid spreading metal from the out
wrapper of the filter into it. Then use a sharp knife and cut a 1-
2 high and similar length section of the pleated media. Leave
it folded up like an accordion and put it a vice and squeeze.
Dab the oil off and keep squeezing until no more comes out.
Remove it from the vice and open it out and see what you
have. A few random shiny pieces are normal, lots are not.

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The pieces of steel are pretty big. There are tree total, all about the same size. Each is almost the size of a crushed aluminum soda can...but not that shape..my computer does not like to upload pics, but will figure it out a bit later. The seemed to me that maybe they were parts of a windage tray. They are not small by any means. Like I said, I looked into the crankcase and could see no real evidence of these chunks of steel beating around in there...but they are obviously beat and pounded by something. I have looked online for a cut-away illustration of the motor but have seen nothing that would even give me a clue of what these are, or were. Stranger yet, the engine runs relatively well for having sat for God only knows how long and has good oil pressure. It even runs good with all of the usual bugs to work out when waking them from a long sleep. One of the combustion chamber block gaskets is leaking horribly...this is because whom ever built it used black silicone where copper should go. This is a strange one. I will be posting pictures as soon as I can.

I worked on a MF 35 with a 3 cylinder Perkins diesel engine.
As the Crankshaft thrust washers disintegrated,the Crank moved forwards.

As the crank shaft came in contact with the OIL pump inlet SCREEN, the screen was demolished.
I was fortunate that my late brother was a master machinist. He built up the thrust faces on the crankshaft and ground back to standard.

It's been some time however, I do remember either the Counter weights or the through's were even coming in contact with the engine block..

Bob...

(quoted from post at 08:31:22 04/02/21) I worked on a MF 35 with a 3 cylinder Perkins diesel engine.
As the Crankshaft thrust washers disintegrated,the Crank moved forwards.

As the crank shaft came in contact with the OIL pump inlet SCREEN, the screen was demolished.
I was fortunate that my late brother was a master machinist. He built up the thrust faces on the crankshaft and ground back to standard.

It's been some time however, I do remember either the Counter weights or the through's were even coming in contact with the engine block..

Bob...

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Hi Bob.
The sump screen is fine, not damaged in the least, which makes this whole thing even more puzzling. I was beginning to think that maybe the cylinder sleeves broke off and got banged around by the connecting rods...but the screen would surely have been destroyed as well. Probably the oil pump pick up tube. I am beginning to think the mechanic was drunk, or sabotage took place. I cannot upload pictures here yet...

I rebuilt a MF35 with the perkins diesel, the number 1 sleeve was in the bottom of the oil pan in many pieces. What was left of the sleeve.

definitely looks like a sleeve. our mf65 diesel ate the sleeve in cylinder one last year. luckily it was at low rpms so it didn't shatter like that one. It just pushed out the bottom of the cylinder and crumpled up.

UPDATE...there are also non-magnetic pieces of metal. They appear to be teeth off of a gear, or? They are similar looking to a woodruff key. About 1 centimeter long. There's a bunch of these that are obviously from the same gear or whatever. Gee, it sure would save me a lot of grief if I could just post pictures.