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Special Thanks to ptfarmer & Jim.ME

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Old_Man

06-27-2020 13:48:16




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I would just like to thank Jim.ME & ptfarmer for their great help.

These two guys have gone above and beyond in providing information that has greatly helped me. It is great to see that there are still people out there willing to help a stranger (that had some really dumb questions).

Again wishing you both all the best.




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Old_Man

06-29-2020 21:36:57




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Thanks Jim.ME

I just came to that conclusion as well, after playing around with the cylinders. Now it makes perfect sense, so I have an issue when turning right, where neither cylinder does anything.

I cleaned around the steering cylinder as it was covered in thick grime & tomorrow I will play around with the right hand lines. What I noticed when switching the right side lines yesterday very little fluid came out when I disconnected one of them, which could be the right turn one.

This just seems to be getting more bizarre, as I have an small issue with the brakes I tried to research the brake booster as I am losing fluid but no obvious leak. Looked in my manual & on the Agco site no mention of a booster.
So someone has either done some farm engineering on this tractor or I have the wrong model, I have attached a photo of the booster as well.

Many Thanks

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Jim.ME

06-29-2020 15:55:29




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 Re: Special Thanks to ptfarmer & Jim.ME in reply to Old_Man, 06-27-2020 13:48:16  
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Both cylinders should move when you turn the steering wheel, just in opposite directions. If neither moves when you turn the wheel for a right turn it does sound like a valve problem or the hose between the valve and tee where the line splits to go to the cylinders is blocked. I have seen hoses fail internally and stop flow but not leak. You could unhook the hoses from the cylinders. Then try turning it and see if you get oil alternating between the hoses on each side when you turn the wheel both directions.

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Old_Man

06-29-2020 14:07:51




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Thanks MF#1, much appreciated. It works much better narrowing the search as you suggested. Popped up straight away. Many thanks



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Old_Man

06-28-2020 19:08:55




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 Re: Special Thanks to ptfarmer & Jim.ME in reply to Old_Man, 06-27-2020 13:48:16  
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:lol: I wish. I have no idea what is happening.

There seems to be an issue in either the lines or the steering valve. If I turn the steering wheel towards the right neither cylinder does anything.

I even reversed the lines going into the right hand cylinder, no difference.

When I turn the steering wheel towards the left both the cylinders work. Reversing the lines on the right hand cylinder it will just do the opposite i.e extend or retract.

No matter what I do, turning the steering towards the right does nothing to either cylinder, logic tells me that it should activate the right hand cylinder either extending or retracting depending on the setup.

It leads me to think that the steering valve has a fault, as it activates both the left & right steering cylinders when turning the steering wheel left.

Also regarding AGCO parts, as you suggest the site is locked to U.S. Easily bypassed when using a VPN, so had a quick look for the MF220 backhoe, couldn't find anything so will have a better look today.

Regards

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MF#1

06-29-2020 08:17:39




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 Re: Special Thanks to ptfarmer & Jim.ME in reply to Old_Man, 06-28-2020 19:08:55  
I posted a response earlier to your later posts with a pic of the AGCO parts book. It does list the 220 backhoe. Search "220", filter by "Massey Ferguson", the 220 will show up. Good Luck!



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ptfarmer

06-27-2020 20:23:04




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Glad to help out anytime.



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Jim.ME

06-27-2020 15:41:03




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You are welcome, glad to help. Does this mean you have steering now?



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