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Cloudsurfer

11-06-2019 08:08:39




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Hi, new to forum. I use tractor for cutting recreation areas football pitches etc. So it's for go not show.
Have been nursing to end of season. Low oil pressure, replaced rad and water pump earlier in year. Decided to refurb engine so tractors split and engine at refurb shop.
Questions are
1/ there is quite a bit of dark engine oil? In the case see pic. Gearbox transmission oil is lighter/clear, so I'm hoping input shaft seal is ok.. Coming from engine seal flywheel rope seal?

2/ I intend fitting a new lux clutch and thrust bearing. Anything else I should do before reassembly?
Am on on the right lines please?

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John Deere D

11-09-2019 08:58:49




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 Re: MF 35 oil in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-06-2019 08:08:39  
Info as per MF SERVICE MANUAL..

Bob...Owner 1963 MF FE 35 X...Made in England



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Cloudsurfer

11-08-2019 15:52:15




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 Re: MF 35 oil in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-06-2019 08:08:39  
Hi thanks all for help. Going to buy the recommended manual.
No intent to convert transmission.
Looking forward to getting it back together and running soon.



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ptfarmer

11-07-2019 18:52:04




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 Re: MF 35 oil in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-06-2019 08:08:39  
You should be able to get MF manuals from AGCO http://www.agcopubs.com/



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Cloudsurfer

11-07-2019 10:08:46




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 Re: MF 35 oil in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-06-2019 08:08:39  

Was the original Engine swapped out for a donner engine????
i don't think it's been swapped

Was the original Transmission swapped out for a donner Transmission?????

Don't believe so casing numbers seem to suggest all produced same year.

Was the original Clutch assembly swapped out for a donner Clutch assembly???

The clutch is a Spicer Laycock clutch. By 1964 Laycock's principal products were: Laycock de Normanville overdrives and spring diaphragm clutches for the motor industry and flexible couplings also for industrial use. Dual clutches for tractors, garage equipment, railway air and vacuum brakes, control valves for fluids and gases were also manufactured. My man

These tractors are showing up more and more the result of parts replacement NOT as per factor new...

My service book see above post says otherwise. Remember I'm UK maybe different. It says basic 3 a 152 variant fitted with dual clutch with parts removed.
I purchased the Manuals as soon as I required accurate procedures and technical information...

Where did you get manuals?
I have Massey Ferguson mf35 service manual

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John Deere D

11-07-2019 12:12:07




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 Re: MF 35 oil in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-07-2019 10:08:46  
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My service book see above post says otherwise. Remember I'm UK maybe different. It says basic 3 a 152 variant fitted with dual clutch with parts removed. I purchased the Manuals as soon as I required accurate procedures and technical information...

Where did you get manuals? I have Massey Ferguson mf35 service manual

Good day Cloudsurfer.....My MF FE 35 X was built in England in 1963. We ordered the tractor new, specked out for our needs here in North Western Alberta Canada...

I had the SERVICE MANUAL ordered in by a local MF dealer ,May,28,1985 here in Canada...
Manual...1448 811 M1...
Manual...1448 811 M1 shows up on the INTERNET...

I shall follow your adventure with this Tractor with interest, especially, if you decide to turn this transmission into a LIVE PTO TRANSMISSION..

Bob...Owner various colored Tractors...

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Bob N.Y.

11-07-2019 06:47:57




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 Re: MF 35 oil in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-06-2019 08:08:39  
In order for a 2 stage clutch to work, the transmission has to have 2 input shafts, one inside the other. I don't see an outer shaft in the picture. You will need a different tranny if you want live pto.



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Cloudsurfer

11-07-2019 02:10:20




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 Re: MF 35 single clutch input shaft oil in housing in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-06-2019 08:08:39  
Got it!

The tractor is fitted with dual clutch with secondary PTO clutch parts removed.
Found text and drawing explaining. Screw 16 is the secondary adjuster missing in pic between yellow springs as removed, as per instruction.


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Cloudsurfer

11-07-2019 01:36:28




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 Re: MF 35 single clutch input shaft oil in housing in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-06-2019 08:08:39  
Got it!

The tractor is fitted with dual clutch with secondary PTO clutch parts removed.
Found text and drawing explaining. Screw 16 is the secondary adjuster missing in pic between yellow springs as removed, as per instruction.


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Cloudsurfer

11-07-2019 00:51:04




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 Re: MF 35 oil in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-06-2019 08:08:39  
After further internet surfing it appears the input shaft isn't dual clutch, why have I got an dual clutch yet single clutch input shaft, anyone help please?



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John Deere D

11-07-2019 06:59:26




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 Re: MF 35 oil in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-07-2019 00:51:04  
The internal components between the transmission installed and designed originally from factory with the Dual Clutch Assembly and the internal components used with the Single Clutch are NOT just the input shaft.....

Bob....

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John Deere D

11-07-2019 06:36:22




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 Re: MF 35 oil in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-07-2019 00:51:04  
Please share with the "YT" group the operating history of this Tractor...

Was the original Engine swapped out for a donner engine????

Was the original Transmission swapped out for a donner Transmission?????

Was the original Clutch assembly swapped out for a donner Clutch assembly???

These tractors are showing up more and more the result of parts replacement NOT as per factor new...

I purchased the Manuals as soon as I required accurate procedures and technical information...

All the best with your adventure.....

Bob. Owner operator MF FE 35 X...3 cylinder Perkins diesel, dual clutch...family purchased new in 1963...

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Cloudsurfer

11-06-2019 23:36:18




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 Re: MF 35 oil in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-06-2019 08:08:39  
Oops 2nd pic of missing adjuster bolts should be between yellow springs I think....



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Cloudsurfer

11-06-2019 23:34:12




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 Re: MF 35 oil in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-06-2019 08:08:39  




Hi I'm confused.
Clutch says dual. Although not functioning as such as it appears the adjuster bolts missing.
Can anyone confirm what the input shaft for a dual clutch looks like on a mf35 a3-152 please? Pic?



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ptfarmer

11-06-2019 21:55:26




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 Re: MF 35 oil in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-06-2019 08:08:39  
That one should be easy to replace the input shaft seal on the transmission (single stage clutch). The tractors with the 2 stage clutch are more difficult to do. I like to add the second drain hole in the bottom of the bellhousing as indicated in the picture by John Deere D as it helps to make it easier to determine if it's a engine, or transmission leak later on should it leak later on. It's something I think MF should have done when they were new.

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pinball

11-06-2019 17:55:49




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 Re: MF 35 oil in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-06-2019 08:08:39  
personally I would replace the input shaft seal while you have it split. if it does starts to leak you will have to split the tractor again. that's what I would do if it were mine.



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John Deere D

11-06-2019 08:34:36




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 Re: MF 35 oil in reply to Cloudsurfer, 11-06-2019 08:08:39  
Bob...Owner Various colored Tractors



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