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Massey Harris & Massey Ferguson Tractors Discussion Forum
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TO35 to MF35 Evolution Questions

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Bill VA

11-05-2019 16:33:26




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Few questions regarding the Ferguson TO35 and the later MF35.

Was the high low range 6 speed transmission a Ferguson development prior to the MF MH merger?

Was the Perkins diesel ever used in the Ferguson TO35.

What changes came with the MF35 vs TO35?

Thanks!
Bill




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Bill VA

11-06-2019 09:34:42




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 Re: TO35 to MF35 Evolution Questions in reply to Bill VA, 11-05-2019 16:33:26  
Thanks for the info! You see a lot of Massey Ferguson 35 tractors for sale around here, but they are really Ferguson TO35ís with 4 cyl gas or Standard Diesel engines, sheet metal painted red. I saw a nice looking MF 35 diesel with correct paint and hood decals/ornaments and thought it looked pretty good. Nice compact design.

Thanks again for the info!
Bill



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Dieseltech

11-06-2019 13:23:03




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 Re: TO35 to MF35 Evolution Questions in reply to Bill VA, 11-06-2019 09:34:42  
My 1958 with the 23C diesel does have red fenders and hood..



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Bob N.Y.

11-06-2019 14:53:07




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 Re: TO35 to MF35 Evolution Questions in reply to Dieseltech, 11-06-2019 13:23:03  
1955 was the green belly and 1956 was yellow and gray. Did the red and gray color combo start in 1957 or 1958?



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Dieseltech

11-06-2019 17:23:51




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 Re: TO35 to MF35 Evolution Questions in reply to Bob N.Y., 11-06-2019 14:53:07  
If I recall the red/flint metallic started end of 1957 through 1960 for the 35.



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Bob N.Y.

11-06-2019 17:55:26




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 Re: TO35 to MF35 Evolution Questions in reply to Dieseltech, 11-06-2019 17:23:51  
Did the color change after 1960? I thought it stayed basically the same thru the 1XX series, other than some silver accents.



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Dieseltech

11-05-2019 17:21:54




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 Re: TO35 to MF35 Evolution Questions in reply to Bill VA, 11-05-2019 16:33:26  
If I recall correctly the 3 speed Hi-Lo transmission was on the TO 35 first, replacing the 4 speed TO 30 in 1954, after the merger in 1953. The TO 35 diesels used the 23C Standard Motors 4 cylinder, I have a 1958 tractor with that engine, and I think 1959 was the last year it was used. MF bought Perkins in 1959. I also have a later MF 35 Perkins diesel with the 12 speed Multi-Power transmission, I think it's a 1963 but need to look.
Also have two 135 diesels, a US 12 speed and a GB with the 8 speed transmission.

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DavidP, South Wales

11-06-2019 01:15:23




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 Re: TO35 to MF35 Evolution Questions in reply to Dieseltech, 11-05-2019 17:21:54  
Hello, I would largely agree with Dieseltech although I think that the timing of events here in the UK was different.
The FE35 was introduced in the UK in late '57 and the first Perkins engined 35 came out in 1959. Ther were some component changes. The first 4-cylinders had the bar-type brake pedal with the independant pedals mounted on the brake cross-shafts. The brake rods had a compression spring fitted to them which was dropped by the introduction of the 3-cylinder. Many castings and brake drums carried the 'MHF' cast into them even into the 3-cylinders. By and large the tractors were the same with the exception of the engine and its associated components as well as the front axle bracket being fabricated on the 4 and cast on the 3-cylinder.

DavidP, South Wales

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