Size difference 150/165

FarmerFred7

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So I know these tractors are similar in size, but by how much? Are they the same size? I'm talking things like width, length, weight.

More power on the 165 why even make the 150?
 
150 diesel is a 3 cylinder, all 165 were 4 cylinders. 165 has a heavier front axle
ande bigger tires/wheels, bigger fuel tank etc.so it's heavier and longer than a
150. Not ensure if the rear end is the same.

Ben
 
The 150 is a nice tractor, even though it has the same engine as my 135 I like the feel of the 150 more. The steering of the 150 is so much nice than the 135, if only MF put the 150 steering on a 135!!!
 
(quoted from post at 19:09:27 08/24/19) 150 diesel is a 3 cylinder, all 165 were 4 cylinders. 165 has a heavier front axle
ande bigger tires/wheels, bigger fuel tank etc.so it's heavier and longer than a
150. Not ensure if the rear end is the same.

Ben

They share the same rear end don't they? And same front hood etc? So they should be the same width and almost the same size right?
 
My Ne test list has the 150 Diesel at 36HP and gas at 35HP and the 165 diesel at 51HP and the gas at 51hp
 
165 will have a longer wheelbase and longer hood, making it a heavier tractor.The
135 and 150 had more in common. See tractordata for specifics.

Ben
 
My brothers 150
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(quoted from post at 13:55:43 08/25/19) 165 will have a longer wheelbase and longer hood, making it a heavier tractor.The
135 and 150 had more in common. See tractordata for specifics.

Ben

The sheet metal is the same on the 150, 165, 175 and most parts of the rest of the 100 series. The difference is in the engine, trans, axles, etc.
 
(quoted from post at 14:02:25 08/25/19) My brothers 150
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I have a 150 myself. I'm just wondering how much larger the frame is on the 165 as I'm considering "moving up"

I don't want to go too much larger
 
Are you aware that the 150 is mechanically the same as the 135? The difference between them is the front axle and steering arrangement. I have sales literature from late 1964 that shows the weight of the 150 ranging from 3,500 to 4025 lbs. while the 165 ranges from 4,620 to 5,100 lbs. the wheel base of the 150 is 81.3" and the 165 is 82". The pictures show the 150 having automotive style drum brakes and no final drives while the 165 has planetary final drives and inboard disc brakes. Hope this helps.
 
(quoted from post at 16:12:28 08/25/19) Are you aware that the 150 is mechanically the same as the 135? The difference between them is the front axle and steering arrangement. I have sales literature from late 1964 that shows the weight of the 150 ranging from 3,500 to 4025 lbs. while the 165 ranges from 4,620 to 5,100 lbs. the wheel base of the 150 is 81.3" and the 165 is 82". The pictures show the 150 having automotive style drum brakes and no final drives while the 165 has planetary final drives and inboard disc brakes. Hope this helps.

Truthfully I don't know much about them. I have a 150, and have read statements like "a 150 is the same as a 175 except for a smaller engine" or "a 150 is the same as a 135 but longer with a better front axle."

The weight of a 150 on tractor data is 4800#. The 135 is 3500. 165, 5000#. Width is about the same, Who knows what is accurate!

If the wheelbase and width is similar it would have to be similar in size one would think,!!! I can't even find a video or pictures of the models all next to each other.
 
(quoted from post at 18:01:46 08/25/19) Whoever said the 150 is the same as the 175 doesn't know what they are talking about!

Sorry that was a typo, supposed to be 165 (not 176)

Does your book have any info on the 3165? There's almost no info on that model online.
 
(quoted from post at 15:58:06 08/25/19)
I have a 150 myself. I'm just wondering how much larger the frame is on the 165 as I'm considering "moving up"

I don't want to go too much larger



The US 165 has the Perkins ad4.203, its a ad3.152 but with a extra cylinder (the ad3.152, and ad4.203 uses the same pistons, and sleeves). The 150, 165, 175 share the same part number for the hood. While I have never had a 150, and 165 sitting side by side I would assume the 150 had a longer front axle support compared to the 165 so they can use the same hood. The 150's steering box is different than the 165, 175 that I do know. AGCO's online parts book is down for some reason right now so I can't compare the front axle supports. The wheelbase on a 150 is 81", on the 165, and 175 it's 82", and on the 180 it's 93". A 165 will give about 13 more hp over the 150.
 
(quoted from post at 19:34:53 08/25/19)
Sorry that was a typo, supposed to be 165 (not 176)

Does your book have any info on the 3165? There's almost no info on that model online.



The 3165 is the industrial model of the 165 so it's pretty much the same tractor, but with some features that may not come on a 165.
 
The internal brakes and the planetarys on a 65 makes repairs much more difficult and costly. The difference between a 65 and a 50 is significant ( I own both). The 65 was a serious work tractor for full time farmers in its day. The 50 is a great little tractor but more limited due to HP and weight. I am assuming the differences were the same in the 150/165 models.
 
The rear axle is NOT the same. I also think the rear axles housing and transmission case are much larger on the 165.
 
(quoted from post at 16:12:28 08/25/19) Are you aware that the 150 is mechanically the same as the 135? The difference between them is the front axle and steering arrangement. I have sales literature from late 1964 that shows the weight of the 150 ranging from 3,500 to 4025 lbs. while the 165 ranges from 4,620 to 5,100 lbs. the wheel base of the 150 is 81.3" and the 165 is 82". The pictures show the 150 having automotive style drum brakes and no final drives while the 165 has planetary final drives and inboard disc brakes. Hope this helps.

Out of curiosity what does your literature say the weight of a 135 is?
 
(quoted from post at 16:12:28 08/25/19) Are you aware that the 150 is mechanically the same as the 135? The difference between them is the front axle and steering arrangement. I have sales literature from late 1964 that shows the weight of the 150 ranging from 3,500 to 4025 lbs. while the 165 ranges from 4,620 to 5,100 lbs. the wheel base of the 150 is 81.3" and the 165 is 82". The pictures show the 150 having automotive style drum brakes and no final drives while the 165 has planetary final drives and inboard disc brakes. Hope this helps.


The 150 as well the 135 could be had with final drives, and inboard disk brakes.
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The rear view of my brothers 150 with the planetaries/internal disk brakes.
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The 150's are kind of rare around where I live, but the ones I've seen had them. I have yet to see a 135 with planetaries/internal disk brakes. The 135's that had them were for orchard use according to the 135 parts book.
 
That is a high clearance tractor, not common around here. Perhaps the high clearance 150 models came with that rear axle? Interesting.
 
(quoted from post at 04:52:57 08/29/19) That is a high clearance tractor, not common around here. Perhaps the high clearance 150 models came with that rear axle? Interesting.



The MF parts book calls it a row crop tractor. Only the diesel row crop 150's came with that rear axle according to the parts book. The gas row crops didn't have that rear axle.
 

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