102 loader on 150

FarmerFred7 · Jun 12, 2019

I have a chance to buy a 102-A MF (Davis??) Loader for basically scrap pricing. It has a front mounted pump, but not sure if it works. serial number 28935.

It's off a TO-35, should fit a 135, and I see how those mounted up in the front. My 150 has mounts on the sides. But the rest of the frame looks mighty similar to what's usually on a 150.

I wondering/hoping that with some side brackets welded up, this loader and it's front mounted pump would work with a 150?? Anyone know??

https://rochester.craigslist.org/grd/6886564628.html

FarmerFred7 · Jun 14, 2019

Would there be a way to verify if the front hydraulic pump works on this unit if I go to see it? Not sure if it would pump if turned by hand or not

thoner7 · Jun 15, 2019

(quoted from post at 16:25:31 06/12/19) I have a chance to buy a 102-A MF (Davis??) Loader for basically scrap pricing. It has a front mounted pump, but not sure if it works. serial number 28935.

It's off a TO-35, should fit a 135, and I see how those mounted up in the front. My 150 has mounts on the sides. But the rest of the frame looks mighty similar to what's usually on a 150.

I wondering/hoping that with some side brackets welded up, this loader and it's front mounted pump would work with a 150?? Anyone know??

https://rochester.craigslist.org/grd/6886564628.html

I'd be interested in this answer two as I am having some issues with my 3 point hydraulics, which also run my loader. Going to an industrial style with dedicated front pump would be awesome.

Caryc · Jun 15, 2019

(quoted from post at 16:25:31 06/12/19) I have a chance to buy a 102-A MF (Davis??) Loader for basically scrap pricing. It has a front mounted pump, but not sure if it works. serial number 28935.

It's off a TO-35, should fit a 135, and I see how those mounted up in the front. My 150 has mounts on the sides. But the rest of the frame looks mighty similar to what's usually on a 150.

I wondering/hoping that with some side brackets welded up, this loader and it's front mounted pump would work with a 150?? Anyone know??

https://rochester.craigslist.org/grd/6886564628.html

Can you not talk to the owner and ask him what he had it on and if the pump works? Usually people are not going to remove a whole loader just because the front mounted pump goes bad.

FarmerFred7 · Jun 15, 2019

(quoted from post at 15:23:59 06/15/19)

(quoted from post at 16:25:31 06/12/19) I have a chance to buy a 102-A MF (Davis??) Loader for basically scrap pricing. It has a front mounted pump, but not sure if it works. serial number 28935.

It's off a TO-35, should fit a 135, and I see how those mounted up in the front. My 150 has mounts on the sides. But the rest of the frame looks mighty similar to what's usually on a 150.

I wondering/hoping that with some side brackets welded up, this loader and it's front mounted pump would work with a 150?? Anyone know??

https://rochester.craigslist.org/grd/6886564628.html

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Can you not talk to the owner and ask him what he had it on and if the pump works? Usually people are not going to remove a whole loader just because the front mounted pump goes bad.

Loader was on a to-35. Current owner bought the to-35 with the loader already removed. He is selling the loader as he doesn't need it.

I can't find any info online about what type of pump it has or if that would work with my 150. I know the 35 would swap to the 135, which has the same engine as my 150, so I am hopeful.

The frame looks very similar to the loaders I've seen on 150s in pictures. But it tapers in toward the front, and may be too narrow. I'm not sure of the differences (if any) in the front clips between the to-35, 135, and 150.

Caryc · Jun 16, 2019

I have the same loader on my MF202. That's the industrial version of the MF35.

ptfarmer · Jun 16, 2019

The 150 has a different front axle, and front axle support than the smaller 35's (like the TO35, 35, 135). It will need either the correct brackets to mount it, or have the existing mounting brackets modified, or new ones fabricated.

FarmerFred7 · Jun 16, 2019

(quoted from post at 06:16:50 06/16/19) The 150 has a different front axle, and front axle support than the smaller 35's (like the TO35, 35, 135). It will need either the correct brackets to mount it, or have the existing mounting brackets modified, or new ones fabricated.

"Correct Brackets" -- you are talking about the side mounted plates right? I have a set off a similar loader, they like wrap around the frame, but wasn't sure if they would line up for not.
This one on Craigslist tapers in .

Other than that, do you think mounting the front pump would be an issue? I've found the crankshaft coupler plate and the splined shaft but idk if they will line up.

ptfarmer · Jun 17, 2019

(quoted from post at 07:40:04 06/16/19)

(quoted from post at 06:16:50 06/16/19) The 150 has a different front axle, and front axle support than the smaller 35's (like the TO35, 35, 135). It will need either the correct brackets to mount it, or have the existing mounting brackets modified, or new ones fabricated.

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"Correct Brackets" -- you are talking about the side mounted plates right? I have a set off a similar loader, they like wrap around the frame, but wasn't sure if they would line up for not.
This one on Craigslist tapers in .

Other than that, do you think mounting the front pump would be an issue? I've found the crankshaft coupler plate and the splined shaft but idk if they will line up.

Without having everything in front of me it's hard to say. Mounting the pump up front can be done, but you may need to change a couple of the steering arms as the shaft to drive the pump will limit the steering a little bit.

Don-Wi · Jun 17, 2019

(quoted from post at 10:31:14 06/17/19)

(quoted from post at 07:40:04 06/16/19)

(quoted from post at 06:16:50 06/16/19) The 150 has a different front axle, and front axle support than the smaller 35's (like the TO35, 35, 135). It will need either the correct brackets to mount it, or have the existing mounting brackets modified, or new ones fabricated.

Click to expand...

"Correct Brackets" -- you are talking about the side mounted plates right? I have a set off a similar loader, they like wrap around the frame, but wasn't sure if they would line up for not.
This one on Craigslist tapers in .

Other than that, do you think mounting the front pump would be an issue? I've found the crankshaft coupler plate and the splined shaft but idk if they will line up.

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Without having everything in front of me it's hard to say. Mounting the pump up front can be done, but you may need to change a couple of the steering arms as the shaft to drive the pump will limit the steering a little bit.

Doesn't the 150 have the same front axle as the 165? We had a crank driven pump on ours and it didn't interfere with the steering at all. I even have pictures of how i used transmission of the tractor for the reservoir for the front pump. Would be similar on a 150, but would probably rewrite a few different modifications.

Donovan from Wisconsin

FarmerFred7 · Jun 17, 2019

(quoted from post at 18:20:46 06/17/19)

(quoted from post at 10:31:14 06/17/19)

(quoted from post at 07:40:04 06/16/19)

(quoted from post at 06:16:50 06/16/19) The 150 has a different front axle, and front axle support than the smaller 35's (like the TO35, 35, 135). It will need either the correct brackets to mount it, or have the existing mounting brackets modified, or new ones fabricated.

Click to expand...

"Correct Brackets" -- you are talking about the side mounted plates right? I have a set off a similar loader, they like wrap around the frame, but wasn't sure if they would line up for not.
This one on Craigslist tapers in .

Other than that, do you think mounting the front pump would be an issue? I've found the crankshaft coupler plate and the splined shaft but idk if they will line up.

Click to expand...

Without having everything in front of me it's hard to say. Mounting the pump up front can be done, but you may need to change a couple of the steering arms as the shaft to drive the pump will limit the steering a little bit.

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Doesn't the 150 have the same front axle as the 165? We had a crank driven pump on ours and it didn't interfere with the steering at all. I even have pictures of how i used transmission of the tractor for the reservoir for the front pump. Would be similar on a 150, but would probably rewrite a few different modifications.

Donovan from Wisconsin

Yes the front steering leaves easy access to the crank.

Great idea using the tractors fluid rather than the loader frame! I was worried about corrosion and grime in a frame that has sat.

How did you plumb the lines? Care to share the pics?

Don-Wi · Jun 19, 2019

It's been a while since i did it,and i may have had to change a few other things on it, but here's what i got....

I had to grind clearance on the one bracket for clearance, and also a little on the transmission housing where the pipes hit. Made sure the return was under the surface to prevent foaming, and also had to avoid the pto gears. Had a spin on filter on the return, and a screen on the suction. Make sure you use atleast a 3/4" suction line to the pump so you don't starve the pump. Hope these help. I may be able to find a few other pictures,but I'm not sure i can.

Donovan from Wisconsin

Don-Wi · Jun 19, 2019

I also had the control plumbed to remote outlets on the back so we could use it on other implements that needed hydraulics. Worked great for us.

thoner7 · Jun 20, 2019

(quoted from post at 23:07:21 06/18/19) I also had the control plumbed to remote outlets on the back so we could use it on other implements that needed hydraulics. Worked great for us.

Very cool idea. Thanks for sharing.

Don-Wi · Jun 21, 2019

The fitting going through for the return was a female pipe coupler that i threaded to the nearest common thread (I'm a machinist,so was easy) and then tapped the cover to the same thread. I had o rings on both sides of i remember right, think i fixed the one you can see squeezing out in the picture.

The suction side was a bulkhead fitting, and then a 90*hose crimp on fitting that i cut the ferrule off of to make it a little smaller.

Not sure what else i may be forgetting.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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