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165 brakes part 2

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David Fisher

02-10-2019 16:14:36




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We pulled the left axle a few weeks ago and removed the discs and actuator to make sure I ordered the right parts. Rivets had cut pretty deep so I'm replacing everything. Pulled that axle again this morning placing all the new parts inside. Moved to the right hand side and found the outer axle seal is leaking bad, Discs had been replaced on this side before many years ago, probably for the same reason... Really not a bad job so far, even the differential lock on the right side is kind of easy figure out. So what am I going to find on this outside seal area? Felt like the axle might pull out of this end part toward the inside while I had the whole axle off the tractor but not sure. For now until a seal is ordered I've put it all back together minus the brakes and actuator because I have to have it mobile to move outside the shop.

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acadam20

02-11-2019 09:13:31




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 Re: 165 brakes part 2 in reply to David Fisher, 02-10-2019 16:14:36  
You will need the cork for the planetary housing as well. Now I will add it might be worth while to pull the planetary and check the outer race and replace the seal. I am told that the outer race is always bad and indeed mine was when I did the outer seals. You will need a 20 ton press to put the planetary on though and a puller to pull the planetary. Not a bad job but it does require the right tools.

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Dieseltech

02-10-2019 18:45:10




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 Re: 165 brakes part 2 in reply to David Fisher, 02-10-2019 16:14:36  
The outer axle inner planetary seal needs the wheel/planetary assembly removed for seal access. Before removing the drive shaft LOCK the brake to keep the discs in place then drive axle can be removed/replaced easily. Be thankful the planetary outer seal next to the wheel is not leaking, as the planetary carrier is a real BEAR to press off/on the stub axle.



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David Fisher

02-10-2019 19:13:38




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 Re: 165 brakes part 2 in reply to Dieseltech, 02-10-2019 18:45:10  
Thanks so much, very well explained... I have to move this tractor several hundred yards to be stored in the barn for now so I just left the brakes and actuator out to keep oil off them and will remove the whole axle again once I have this seal that's needed. A quick look online showed only one seal available for this outside area. Any chance both of these seals on the outside area are the same ? I'll probably try to pick this seal up at a local dealership so I can finish this job one evening this week.

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David Fisher

02-10-2019 19:18:14




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 Re: 165 brakes part 2 in reply to David Fisher, 02-10-2019 19:13:38  
This will be so nice once it's finished... My grandfather bought this tractor used many yeas ago and my Dad's used it for the past 40 years with no brakes.
I'm using it now to bush hog with in WVa and I need brakes.



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Dieseltech

02-11-2019 05:03:26




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 Re: 165 brakes part 2 in reply to David Fisher, 02-10-2019 19:18:14  
If I recall both inner and outer planetary seals are not the same.



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