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MF 65 Rear Remotes

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enrightj

12-06-2018 17:26:46




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Hello,

I have a Massey Ferguson 65 and I'm interested in installing rear remotes. I understand that the oil pump is small on the 65 but I'm hoping to run a small round baler (4X4s), so I would need the remotes for opening the baler and maybe tying the bales. I am on relatively flat ground. From what I have read I can remove the plate near the seat and attach an MF specific control valve, however, I haven't been able to find any instructions on how this can be done. I imagine it isn't as easy as just pulling off the plate and attaching the valve. I also read that I can attach a diverter valve which (I'm assuming) would allow me to install any type of control valve. To summarize my questions a bit better:
-Has anyone installed a control valve on an MF 65 before?
-Does anyone have any instructions available on how this can be done? My workshop manual doesn't cover this. -Would it be better to have an experienced mechanic do this for me? I was quoted $800 CAD for the parts and time.

Thanks!

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ptfarmer

12-07-2018 15:39:10




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 Re: MF 65 Rear Remotes in reply to enrightj, 12-06-2018 17:26:46  
The setup in the first picture I posted was posted by someone else here on the YT forum (they did a nice job on it). Some of the MF tractors came with the longer pto lever (they had 3 different levers) the long pto lever is part number 511096M1. My 135 has the long lever like the one shown in the picture, sure is nice not to have to reach for that lever like you do the other ones.



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Bob N.Y.

12-07-2018 13:48:43




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 Re: MF 65 Rear Remotes in reply to enrightj, 12-06-2018 17:26:46  
external link offers this complete kit to equip your tractor to operate 2 dual action cylinders. The only thing you have worry about is loosing the stand pipe that goes between the pump and cover when you take the cover off.

https://www.external_link/MFS3633-Dual-Hydraulic-Remote-Valve-Kit



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ptfarmer

12-07-2018 06:04:13




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 Re: MF 65 Rear Remotes in reply to enrightj, 12-06-2018 17:26:46  
The old valves that MF offered are not very good, main thing is they hamper your ability to get on, and off the tractor. All you need to do is get a pant leg got hooked on one the levers.



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Eric in IL

12-07-2018 07:21:09




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 Re: MF 65 Rear Remotes in reply to ptfarmer, 12-07-2018 06:04:13  
ptfarmer, countless times grabbing the right fender to prevent dismounting head first. Your set-up in the picture looks slick. Is that a homemade pto lever ?



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John Deere D

12-07-2018 07:12:46




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 Re: MF 65 Rear Remotes in reply to ptfarmer, 12-07-2018 06:04:13  
Quote ptfarmer: The old valves that MF offered are not very good, main thing is they hamper your ability to get on, and off the tractor. All you need to do is get a pant leg got hooked on one the levers.

I happen to concur with ptfarmer. With that said, I was able to install remotes by shopping around and located used parts. Yes, the controls can definitely be a pant leg catcher!

I use this Tractor very seldom as in remote hydraulic application:

When the remote HYDs. are in operation....there is nor THREE POINT lift capability:

Bob..Owner MF FE 35 X and other colored Tractors:


LIFT

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Eric in IL

12-07-2018 05:16:12




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 Re: MF 65 Rear Remotes in reply to enrightj, 12-06-2018 17:26:46  
On the chance you decide to look for a Massey valve from a salvage yard, they offered two. One is single acting and one is double acting. I imagine the baler requires the double acting.

Oh, you loose power to the three point when you enable the remote valve. Just in case you didn't know.



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ptfarmer

12-06-2018 23:11:14




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 Re: MF 65 Rear Remotes in reply to enrightj, 12-06-2018 17:26:46  
You can use a diverter valve like this https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/Massey-Ferguson-65_Hydraulic-Diverter-Valve_S60032.html you remove the plate held on with the 2 bolts on the left front of the lift cover. Then you can mount the spool valves elsewhere (for example).

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Spencer2598

12-06-2018 21:35:23




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 Re: MF 65 Rear Remotes in reply to enrightj, 12-06-2018 17:26:46  
I have actually done this a couple of times and I donít think it is too bad of a job. When you take the bolts off, IF you are very careful, you can use a screw driver and slowly lift the plate. Take a small pair of pointed nose pliers and hold on to the stand pipe so it doesnít come out of the pump. The stand pipe is the key part to this, if it comes off the plate and stays in the pump, you just put the control on. If the pipe comes out of the pump, you might have to drain the oil and take the side plate off so you can see to put it back in. I did get lucky with one that I did and was able to get the pipe back in the pump without pulling the side but that might have been more luck than anything.

I would say if you have a basic understanding of how everything is supposed to go, then you can probably do it yourself and save a little money. If you are buying a new valve, then you are already spending a decent amount.

I hope this helps!

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