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Massey Ferguson ID Help

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blaux61

12-09-2013 12:28:23




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I have a massey ferguson tractor that I believe is a 1974 MF 20 Industrial. I have had some people tell me it is something different. What I do know is that our family owned it at one time. We sold it but I have since bought it back. The previous owner gave me a shop manual and a parts book for a 20c. The tractor was originally painted yellow. He painted it red and grey. The serial tag that was attached to the left had side of the dash is gone. There is a serial tag that was on the loader frame. I will have to check that when I get back to my shop. The tractor has a perkins diesel engine. I think it originally came with a backhoe and loader. Still has the loader on it. Backhoe was sold a long time ago. The only number i could find stamped is located on top of the transfer case behind the left driver side seat. That number is 553 543 f91 fd 116. I am not sure if that is the serial number and the assembly number. I am going to try to post some pictures of the tractor.

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blaux61

12-11-2013 07:37:28




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 Re: Massey Ferguson ID Help in reply to blaux61, 12-09-2013 12:28:23  
Here are a few more pictures. The left and right axle housings with the cast numbers. The diff housing with the cast number. The tranny case with the cast number. The loader/ backhoe tag that was attached to the loader frame. The mf 20 stickers are decals on the hood. I am very sure it is a MF 20 Industrial. I think they made a 20, 20b, 20c, 20d. Not sure of the distinction between models. My parts book is for a 20c. I am not sure if it will work with my tractor in finding parts. Alot of the part numbers I can find on existing tractor do not match up with the numbers in the parts book. Same sequence in numbers but some digits don't match up. I do know that they made the 20 in an industrial and a turf version. It appears to me that the above tractors are the turf model. Does anyone know this to be true 100% and does anyone know where i might find a tractor serial number on the tractor besides the ID tag that was riveted to the dash panel left of the steering column?
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blaux61

12-10-2013 14:56:20




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 Re: Massey Ferguson ID Help in reply to blaux61, 12-09-2013 12:28:23  
Mine has a solid front axle. Is there a difference between a mf 20 and a mf 20c?



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ASEguy

12-11-2013 04:19:39




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 Re: Massey Ferguson ID Help in reply to blaux61, 12-10-2013 14:56:20  
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Not sure I can help. Mine is an MF 20 and was yellow repainted yellow. It also has a regular MF front emblem which I don't see on all Industrial tractors I've seen. The other one I'll try to get from the golf course has a beefy front axle and twin power steering cylinders on the front axle area. My best guess is it had a front end loader on it at one time. Mine does not have the MF20 on the hood. Is yours formed into the hood or a raised decal?

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blue water massey

12-11-2013 12:45:35




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 Re: Massey Ferguson ID Help in reply to ASEguy, 12-11-2013 04:19:39  
i have a 73 mf 20 and a 74 135
as per the ser nums
as for 20 20b 20c 20d and also 20f
i figure that the letter designations were for modle inprovements
mine has a mf 32 fromt loader and a mf 52 backhoe
if you go into the AGRO parts book you can find all the parts listed there for them
when i order parts for mine i usally just call it a 135 as most parts guys understand that. back in the early 50s they also made a tractor with a modle designation of 20 which is what most parts guys order from
other than the shuttle shift trans and paint color i haven't found anything differt between them

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ASEguy

12-12-2013 13:21:53




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 Re: Massey Ferguson ID Help in reply to blue water massey, 12-11-2013 12:45:35  
Thanks for the info. I assumed the letter designations were more of a category like the Turf Tractor which would be sold to golf courses. Interesting. I need to find a book on them to learn more. Gerard



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blaux61

12-12-2013 15:41:23




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 Re: Massey Ferguson ID Help in reply to ASEguy, 12-12-2013 13:21:53  
i would love to find a book that goes in depth on the history of the massey ferguson tractor in a chronological order. From what I have found out the mf 20, 20b, 20c, etc. was offered in a turf and industrial version. I think the turf came in an 8 speed without a locking rear diff. The industrial version came in a 6 speed shuttle shift with a locking diff and a loader. My parts book for the 20c has a designation for the turf and the other version. How do you get into the agco parts site without a dealer code?

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Stick welding

12-14-2013 01:14:03




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 Re: Massey Ferguson ID Help in reply to blaux61, 12-12-2013 15:41:23  
I don't think there was ever a 20B model. Looks like an MF20 and 1974 would be correct. Turf model most likely would have a very fast road gear. All 20's are considered industrial tractors. They could be had with a standard manual transmission or a manual shuttle transmission. Probably has a foot throttle. There is a book on MF industrial but it doesn't list the years built for each model, just the different models. Very good book but has a few errors.

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Stick welding

12-14-2013 01:24:22




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 Re: Massey Ferguson ID Help in reply to Stick welding, 12-14-2013 01:14:03  
MF20C is just a newer model. I think the C's came out in 76 along with the 30B, 40B and 50C. There was no 50B in the US either but the 50B was extremely popular in the UK with several different models of it with varying improvements. The 30 became the 40B and the 40 became the 30B just to confuse everybody... actually to end the confusion. The original 30 was a bigger tractor than the 40 but the 40 was a heavier built model with a "Hard Nose".

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blue water massey

12-12-2013 18:41:31




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 Re: Massey Ferguson ID Help in reply to blaux61, 12-12-2013 15:41:23  
just sign in using the guest log in below the dealer log in
http://www.agcopartsbooks.com/



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johnpop1

12-10-2013 14:06:30




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 Re: Massey Ferguson ID Help in reply to blaux61, 12-09-2013 12:28:23  
I am not sure it is an industrial because the front axle looks like and ag adjustable and not a fixed heavy duty industrial.



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samn40

12-09-2013 15:36:04




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 Re: Massey Ferguson ID Help in reply to blaux61, 12-09-2013 12:28:23  
Looks to me like a Massey Ferguson 20.....the industrial version of the 135. Sam



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Tony in Mass.

12-09-2013 16:44:16




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 Re: Massey Ferguson ID Help in reply to samn40, 12-09-2013 15:36:04  
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I'd put my money on it being an MF20 too... just like mine, but not as snazzy. I guess a 'c' ment loader /backhoe version... mine was ...is? still a 'turf20'... you can still see the big old decals under the red same as yours...



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blaux61

12-09-2013 12:50:58




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 Re: Massey Ferguson ID Help in reply to blaux61, 12-09-2013 12:28:23  
having trouble posting pictures



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