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Massey Harris & Massey Ferguson Tractors Discussion Forum
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MF 40 tractor without PTO

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Jeffy

02-13-2011 21:45:02




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I recently bought a 2.5 acre horse ranchette and need to do some heavy work about it (redo the roads, move materials, dig trenches etc.) The local society has an unneeded Massey MF-40 tractor for sale, with a gas engine. They are asking $1000 for it. It comes with a front loader and rear grader attachment. It does not have a rear PTO. Are PTO "kits" available for this unit? What tends to be the weak points of this model?
BTW I do a lot of automotive work, but don't know beans about tractors! Any help greatly appreciated!

Jeff

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Jeffy

02-14-2011 19:33:01




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 Re: MF 40 tractor without PTO in reply to Jeffy, 02-13-2011 21:45:02  
Added a link to two photos of the MF-40 tractor!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/60717459@N00/5446570577/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/60717459@N00/5446570739/in/photostream/

(website didn't allow these URLS in the preferred spot!)



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Phil Tibbetts

02-14-2011 14:20:08




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 Re: MF 40 tractor without PTO in reply to Jeffy, 02-13-2011 21:45:02  
You can get away with a PTO on any tractor if you put an overrunning clutch on it. I have had one on my MF205 Industrial for years with no problems.



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Jeffy

02-14-2011 19:41:12




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 Re: MF 40 tractor without PTO in reply to Phil Tibbetts, 02-14-2011 14:20:08  
What is an overrunning clutch?
How is it different from a "standard" clutch?

Cheers, Jeff



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Phil Tibbetts

02-15-2011 07:27:52




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 Re: MF 40 tractor without PTO in reply to Jeffy, 02-14-2011 19:41:12  
It slides on over the PTO shaft and slips when the PTO shaft reverses direction. They can be bought for $50 or $60 bucks. Here is a link to one on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Tractor-PTO-Over-Running-Clutch-1-3-8-1-3-8-inch-/150562809087?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230e3e24ff



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135 Fan

02-13-2011 23:49:17




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 Re: MF 40 tractor without PTO in reply to Jeffy, 02-13-2011 21:45:02  
An MF40 is an excellent HD industrial tractor. It will have a manual shuttle or an instant reverse transmission and fast hydraulics using a front pump for the loader. It will also have hydrostatic power steering. A PTO isn't recommended on an instant reverse trans. because it will go in reverse when you back up. (it might reverse on a manual shuttle trans. too)If you're not careful to disengage it, you could wreck the implement. A PTO could probably be fit to a manual shuttle but I'm not sure if it has a live PTO or what it would cost. For loader work and I'm guessing a box scraper or rear blade it would be excellent and if everything works, $1000 is a steal!!! What do you want the PTO for? For mowing you could get a riding mower. If you want to rototill or drill post holes, etc. a tractor already equipped with a live PTO would be better. I don't know if there are any weak points on an MF40. They are like an extreme duty 135 with heavier components. If you wanted to pull a plow or do other sustained pulling, it would be hard on an instant reverse transmission because they use a torque converter. Dave

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Hal Cal

02-15-2011 15:30:13




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 Re: MF 40 tractor hydraulic control valve for loader in reply to 135 Fan, 02-13-2011 23:49:17  
I need some help in finding a repair manual or a parts kit to repair the hydraulic control valves for the loader bucket on my Massy-ferguson MF40 tractor with a MF34 L8110 loader attachment.
Thanks for any help.



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135 Fan

02-15-2011 23:39:08




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 Re: MF 40 tractor hydraulic control valve for loader in reply to Hal Cal, 02-15-2011 15:30:13  
The MF34 is a good loader. I'm almost certain the valve is made by Parker Hannifin. It will also have selective self leveling for the bucket if you pull the lift valve all the way back. You could look on the internet for a manual or Chuck on here may have one. Dave



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Jeffy

02-14-2011 19:49:56




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 Re: MF 40 tractor without PTO in reply to 135 Fan, 02-13-2011 23:49:17  
I'll have to go back and look more closely at the systems you mention! Since we were horseback riding at the time, I didn't dally too long. The tractor has a cover-plate where the PTO would go. I would want it for trenching work.
(not postholes, I did 175 of them by hand through
hardpan last year!)
Thank you for your comments. I have much to learn.

Cheers, Jeff



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garyf

02-14-2011 12:43:38




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 Re: MF 40 tractor without PTO in reply to 135 Fan, 02-13-2011 23:49:17  
Yes a running MF40 for $1000 is a steal. I have one with a manual shuttle trans and dual clutch the PTO does not reverse. Perhaps you could consider having 2 tractors your "other " tractor would not need power steering or a loader which would make it much nicer(sp) in tight quarters



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