Wondering about the D seat placement

J Hamilton had a nice picture of a J Deere D on tractor talk. It got me wondering: Why did the D have the operators seat hanging way off the back? What was it about the build that kept the driver from sitting between the rear wheels? Was there any functional advantage? Sort of like IH Cultivision? Dave
 
The D transmission is so large and takes up so much room between the fenders that the seat would be on top of the tranny and wouldnt work. The D is the longest running model that John Deere ever made. 30 years in production. Ive had several Ds over the years and its my favorite tractor.
 
When I was a youngster, when we got tired of bouncing around on that steel seat on the JD D, we would stand between the seat and right fender for a while, maybe just to stretch our legs, especially when plowing.
 
its the way they are built with them being so short. plus you could just stand up when you get tired of sitting. i have no complaints as to the seat position. its my favorite deere. one advantage maybe .... you get exrta weight in the antique pulls.
 
Another reason JD put the seat so far back and low was so you can reach the implement levers from the seat.
 

If I recall correctly, some older Murderapolis Moldine and other older tractors had seats ''way out back'', as well.
 
The Hoyt-Clagwell that Oliver drives in the opening montage
seems to have it out back too. I remember as a kid thinking
he was walking behind it. My kids saw it the same way. Dave
 
Moline and Silver King were that way as well and I think the
JD GP row crop was the same way. And that low far back seat
on the AR was a nasty position, Last year theh changed from
the lo seat model to a high seat model, should have done it
earlier. Had a 50 AR and it was ubcomfortal Same as my Moline
U. The 38 A, 46 b, 49 B and 51 A with normal seating were
comfortable. Actually the early Fordsons the seat was way low
and back, The all Around was high and back.
 
The GP-WT also had the butt-shelf hanging way out back.

http://www.wwdsltd.com/files/1931DeereGP-WTTestRun.mp4
 
(quoted from post at 18:19:27 03/08/23) The Hoyt-Clagwell that Oliver drives in the opening montage
seems to have it out back too.

In the opening sequence he is driving a John Deere. The rest of the time he's using a Fordson.

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I suspect seat placement was in part driven by the need to operate the controls of pulled implements, including modified horse-implements.

If you note, hanging out back was very common on the earliest models. Later models raised the seat, but it still hung back behind the rear axle--for the same reason. It wasn't until yet later generations that the seat moved in front of the rear axle, made possible by hydraulic controls.
 

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