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John Deere 1010 Dozer!!! need help

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drott t340

05-03-2021 19:30:30




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Hi everyone I have what I believe is a 1964 1010 someone took off the serial and model tag, but I believe I have a steering clutch out on the right side I seen someone say put it against a tree and see if tracks spin the left does the right will not, I Adjusted them to the manuals specs but it Did nothing, I was wondering if anyone knows where any video showing exactly how to replace the steering clutch might be, I have the manuals digital downloads but would like to be able to see what is involved and exactly how to do it,also I found some kits online it says they include a new pressure plate,a new brake band,8 new fiber Discs, 8 new steel steering Discs and a throw out bearing, is this every thing it sounds like i would need for the job? no seals or anything? thank you very much for any help.

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drott t340

05-05-2021 16:36:56




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Thanks guy's Keith has been a big help as well as the rest of you, yeah think I will order a book manual off ebay and going now to see if they accepted me into the John Deere forum



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Keith-OR

05-05-2021 21:05:49




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 Re: John Deere 1010 Dozer!!! need help in reply to drott t340, 05-05-2021 16:36:56  
Lavoy said your in



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Jim.ME

05-05-2021 09:41:07




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Several used OEM hard copy JD SM2034 service manuals for less than $50.00 on eBay, if his electronic copy is protected from printing. Hopefully someone can help him figure out how to print pages/sections of it. I can print from all of mine, I think one disc is protected from copying the disc to another, but not printing pages from it.



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Jim.ME

05-05-2021 03:39:09




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Keith,
I think you are very familiar with these JD steering clutches and meant to say, the steering clutches are dry. I offer the following to help drott t340 understand better.
The finals require oil in them to lube bearings and gears. There are seals on the pinion gear shaft and axle shaft of a final drive. Oil could leak into the steering clutch compartment from the pinion shaft seal of the final. Another possible oil leak, and likely more probable, into the steering clutch compartment will be the seal in the differential quill. While those seals are not parts of the steering clutches technically, or on the steering clutch drawing, both of these seals (pinion and quill) protect the steering clutch compartment from receiving oil. Oil leaking into the steering clutch compartment can ruin the clutches. Those seals (pinion and quill) should at least be inspected for signs of leakage and are often replaced when doing steering clutches, at least in my experience.

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Keith-OR

05-05-2021 09:14:47




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 Re: John Deere 1010 Dozer!!! need help in reply to Jim.ME, 05-05-2021 03:39:09  
Thanks Jim, He was worried about no seals in the kit, him and his brother was looking at.If he has to replace seals, they will be separate. He has a digital manual, which to me is a pain in the behind. He is old school and likes hard copy, digital manuals are good in their place,,IF you can print out the info you need at the time.



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Keith-OR

05-04-2021 21:58:50




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 Re: John Deere 1010 Dozer!!! need help in reply to drott t340, 05-03-2021 19:30:30  
I posted message on jdcrawler forum for Lavoy that you are trying to get register there.



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drott t340

05-04-2021 19:52:02




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 Re: John Deere 1010 Dozer!!! need help in reply to drott t340, 05-03-2021 19:30:30  
ok that makes me feel better since I wasn't seeing any in the kits, I never messed with them before but can't find anyone to do it so I have no choice but to try



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drott t340

05-04-2021 19:50:23




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 Re: John Deere 1010 Dozer!!! need help in reply to drott t340, 05-03-2021 19:30:30  
email sent along with my number thank you



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Keith-OR

05-04-2021 19:36:51




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 Re: John Deere 1010 Dozer!!! need help in reply to drott t340, 05-03-2021 19:30:30  
Removing final is going to be a learning experience, I'm just finishing up my second 1010 C. The serial number on a gas crawler is on the right front of the engine block, behind and slightly above the oil filler tube.
Running it up against a tree is a waste of time.
Your going to need the special bracket to pull the final and the final HAS to be rotated 90 degrees as to clear the track rail, If not you'll destroy the tube that the throw out bearing rides on. Also you will need to get the Special gage from Lavoy on the www.jdcrawlers.com forum to adjust the fingers on the new pressure plate.
Your digital manual should show the special attachment ya need to fasten to the final, I made mine out of 1/2 inch rod.

PS send me an email and I will give you my Ph #. it will be a lot easier for me to step you thur the procedure.

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drott t340

05-04-2021 19:35:42




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 Re: John Deere 1010 Dozer!!! need help in reply to drott t340, 05-03-2021 19:30:30  
that's what i would think also but when looking at kits they don't show any



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drott t340

05-04-2021 19:33:35




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I tried to print them out like that but can't figure out how to only get the certain pages maybe I'll take my laptop to the library and have them do it



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pcsaw

05-04-2021 19:14:29




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 Re: John Deere 1010 Dozer!!! need help in reply to drott t340, 05-03-2021 19:30:30  
Probably need at least one seal



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Keith-OR

05-04-2021 19:42:14




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 Re: John Deere 1010 Dozer!!! need help in reply to pcsaw, 05-04-2021 19:14:29  
There is no seal required when working on the finals on a 1010 as they are dry.



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Jim.ME

05-04-2021 16:16:21




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I have some digital copies and just print the pages/sections I need, as I need them; then save them in a three ring binder.



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drott t340

05-04-2021 14:24:50




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 Re: John Deere 1010 Dozer!!! need help in reply to drott t340, 05-03-2021 19:30:30  
Thank you very much that should help me a lot and I will give him a call to order the parts and maybe some advice, yes the manuals I ordered from here thought they was going to be the real books but was digital download, I guess it's better than nothing but I like looking at a book in hand lol



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Jim.ME

05-04-2021 03:51:12




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I don't know of any 1010 specific videos. There are some 420, 430, 440IC/ICD, 1020, 2010, and 350s which would be similar, as far as giving you an idea of what is involved, not all the specifics. You may have to look at it in pieces like breaking track, removing the final, the steering clutch, etc.. Is the download of the service manual you got, a copy of John Deere Service Manual # SM2034 or something else?
For parts I would recommend you call Lavoy Wilcox at jdcrawlers.com. (He is the owner of the jdcrawlers site. His phone number is on the jdcrawlers home page.) He sells parts for and actually works on older JD crawlers, so he will know what you will need to do it right, including related seals and bearings as well as the gauge to set the pressure plate with. If you purchase from him and have a problem, he has the experience to help. The quality of on line steering clutch parts vary greatly and many have no support if you have a problem. Lowest cost is not always the best choice with steering clutches. JMHO

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