jd 70 compared to jd 620?

swindave

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which would you prefer and why?
a john deere 70 or a john deere 620, lp or gas ,
both about the same horsepower, in my area, both would pull 3 bottom plow,
which do you like the best , just for fun!
thanks
 
With 620 better hydraulics and ability to mount true three point hitch. Smoother running and may have the Oliver style seat suspension. My two cents.
 
As a workable tractor, 620 every time. The ability to put a 3pt on it and use hydraulics is huge.

For just tugging stuff Ill take my 70 gas every time.
 
I have both, 620 is one of my best picks , smaller in size and great power .I think I have 5 of them and two 70z. And will be down sizing very soon, I'm getting old. and over the hill gang is coming fast.
 
I have both, 620 is one of my best picks , smaller in size and great power .I think I have 5 of them and two 70z. And will be down sizing very soon, I'm getting old. and over the hill gang is coming fast. All lp.
 


The 70 gas making 45 hp will burn about a dollar an hour more than the 620 making 44 hp.

The 620 runs faster than the 70 (1125 vs 975) and would have less torque.

As has been said, the 620 probably will have a float ride seat; the 70 would not.

My experience around a 630 (neighbor's--not ours) is that it is quieter than a 70.

I'm an armchair expert on this though, because I have never owned either. I'm sure somebody here can tell you actual experience.
 
I've owned both.

I like the 70 better... I sold the 620. The 70 is heavier, and can pull more. Indeed, it could pull more than my 3020. The road gear seems about a 1/3 faster. The foot controlled PTO on a 20 series is difficult for someone who didn't grow up around them, and was an accident waiting to happen with employees.

The 620 used less gas, was a bit more nimble at some things, but not if you were using the PTO. Had I needed a 3 pt, then the 620.
 
for field work i would take the 70. it is a heavier tractor. so it depends what your needs are for them.
 
I don't have a logical explanation for you. My maternal grandfather had a 70 and I have no personal connection to a 620 so the 70. What may complicate that is the 80 plus year old neighbor will retire soon and has had a 620 for many decades. So if I have the money when he starts selling given the cost of trucking I would be money ahead buying something 3 minutes down the road from me via a tractor. A 630 would be my first choice but I have no idea as to when or where it would come from. There was a very reasonable 630 for sale 100 miles from me earlier this year but that would have meant close to 600 dollars to get it home that needs to be factored into the acquisition cost. 600 dollars is a big deal to me.
 
"100 miles from me earlier this year but that would have meant close to 600 dollars to get it home"

I haven't hired anything hauled for a long time but $6 per loaded mile seems terribly high. Is that the going rate these days?
 
Not the going rate but not everybody in my area with a trailer is available for hire for those kinds of jobs. The fellow that is down the road from me that was willing to
do the haul wanted 3 dollars per mile round trip. He actually wants to go no further than 25 miles away and has said he for the most part has lost interest in hiring out
his trailer and truck. The bottom line here is adding an additional 600 dollars made that 630 very ordinary in terms of the net value I was getting. Had it been a lot
closer I would have chanced driving it home and sending a tractor to get it and tow it home had it conked out. I don't need a 630 to be a worker so it is more difficult
to be loose with money to obtain one.
 
But that is not the "going rate" around here. It was the "effective" rate for the trailer owner in question who did quote the job in terms of 3 dollars per mile round trip. There is cheaper but then you have to make contact with those people and see if they are interested in the job being discussed. At one point he pondered taking off 20-30 dollars from the bill as the tractor would have been dropped off at my place rather than going all the way back to his place but ultimately decided he wanted 600 dollars to do the job. I would guess that 3-4 dollars per loaded mile is typical for around here and for jobs with a lot less distance involved. Guys get wary when a job is told as be ordinary but then find out that in fact it is a lot more difficult so fewer guys hire out their trailers if they don't need to make money off of them. There are a lot more trailers that are seen at tractor shows that have "not for hire" signs on them than a decade ago.
 
A little more explanation on the 600 dollar trailer owner. His bone of contention was that the customer always expected a little free chauffeur work in addition to the quoted job. He might agree to haul a load of round bales 15 miles one way but then the buyer of those bales would want the hauler to run an additional 10 miles to the equipment dealer for parts and then another 10 miles to Cousin Bill's to get his 1 inch socket set. Then when the bales were delivered the buyer would refuse to pay for anything other than the initial job. So the transporter in this story finally decided it would be a charge for all miles driven. The guy told me at the beginning that if it were most anybody else they would have got a flat "NO" as to doing a 100 mile haul.
 
Personal opinion i would take 620. Better hyd , ability to have 3 point , uses less fuel, most likely has power steering , float ride seat, fuel gauge, also just my opinion looks better with the two tone paint .
 
I agree with greenenvy 100%. If you intend to work the tractor then the 70 diesel will be better and more fuel efficient. 70 gas models tend to be thirsty compared to the diesel models. I just had a 70 diesel hauled about 1500 miles for a little less than $1000. Cheaper than if I did it myself if you put a value on your time.
 
(quoted from post at 11:52:58 12/27/20) A little more explanation on the 600 dollar trailer owner. His bone of contention was that the customer always expected a little free chauffeur work in addition to the quoted job. He might agree to haul a load of round bales 15 miles one way but then the buyer of those bales would want the hauler to run an additional 10 miles to the equipment dealer for parts and then another 10 miles to Cousin Bill's to get his 1 inch socket set. Then when the bales were delivered the buyer would refuse to pay for anything other than the initial job. So the transporter in this story finally decided it would be a charge for all miles driven. The guy told me at the beginning that if it were most anybody else they would have got a flat "NO" as to doing a 100 mile haul.


Sounds like robbery to me or someone that likes more money than helping customer. Making 600 bucks in alone day cannot be that bad.

If I were to to it myself with a Ford F250 averaging 14mpg and fuel at 2.2 per gallon, it would cost about 35 bucks in Fuel. Now I may like money to and figure my time driving the Ford is worth 50 bucks an hour. It is not as a donckey could drive it... Anyway, this would be 5 hours and diesel so 285 bucks.

If he was our friend he should have asked 100 dollars.

The reverse bidding system FR8STAR works well to shut cost down and is much more secure than this site hauling adds. I got scammed here, but was able to get a Deere 960 cultivator hauled 560 miles being 10 feet wide for less than 1600 through FR8STAR.

Your trucker might be from way south, maybe behind the wall, but at least those guys don't think their fat lazy ads is worth 120 an hour.


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Any thing special about this 70D? I am pretty sure you have already found a standard or two. Just can not believe you still have any room for another one, I don't or I'd still be looking. An LP standard would be interesting to me as I have only see them in Kansas.
 
I think that you are talking to me. I can't be mad at the guy because he does not advertise for any services offered. He has his trailer for his own purposes. He just
happened to be a guy that I knew who had a trailer. It's not easy to find somebody at least around me that wants to go any distance. In the end it did not matter as a
financial matter jumped up so I never bought that 630. I think the would have been freight bill was God's way of saying not to make a move then. Hopefully, in the near
future the stars will align as to buying a 630.
 
Dan....I like the 70 diesels from western states as they are generally in much better condition than those in the midwest. This one has the round tube wfe, p/s, lpto, Baker valve and straight sheet metal. I only have one 70 standard, a diesel with adjustable wfe and transmission driven pto. It came from North Dakota. Even though they only made 336 70 LP standards, I have seen alot of them for sale. I'm not a fan of LP's and their big bulky fuel tank. Usually when I buy a 70 diesel I already have any parts for fixin' what needs fixin' :)
 
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A guy from Iowa showed up at my place with a flatbed semi. He was there to pick up a heavy disk and a front mounted brush chopper and deliver it to a high school acquaintance in Wisconsin. He was told by the Wisconsin guy that the disk was 8' wide. It was 12' wide. He had to load it sideways and remove the tongue and some rear mounted parts, and it still put him over width. He had planned to drive into the night hours due to next day commitments, but the over width issue shut him down on that idea. I was helping him strap things down as the sun was setting. He was an unhappy man. He said he should have know better - the guy he was hauling for had a "reputation". By the way - none of the equipment that he was hauling had ever belonged to me. I hope he was compensated for the extra trouble, but based on his rapidly diminishing opinion of the situation, I imagine he got stiffed.
 
When I got my 70D std. at auction in Kansas there were several like mine and one thing I noticed (but usually consider of little value)was the number of two cylinder tractors with low hours. This was an auction with about 170 John Deere tractors. I agree dry climate tractors are special.
 
Yes it was, I arrived two days before the auction and stayed in Garden City so I could spend some time checking things out before the auction as did many others. The story was that two co-owners of a John Deere dealership kept most of the two cylinder tractors that got traded in on the New Gen tractors. They farmed fifteen sections of ground and therefore had many barns for storage. Those tractors, even ones stored outside were some of the best I've ever seen at auction.
 
Dan....that had to be a few years ago (???) . I remember the auction. One of my 70 diesel rowcrops came from Manter,Ks, not too far from Syracuse.. I have noticed the western tractors have very few oil leaks....don’t know why though.
 
The low hours are because they were obsoleted in less than five years. They may have had a second life and be ran in the fields up to 1975, when they were 20 years old, but that is it....

In comparison, most 40 years old 4440 are still doing major jobs or feeding every day, and now 25 years old 8300 are on same tracks... Evolution is much less in the last 40 years than from 1955 to 1975...


My grandparents scrapped a less than ten years old sfv tractor, similar to Lanz with hot bulbs semi-diesel engine. Totally obsolete in 1964, and obsolete as well when they bought it new, but they did know nothing about Tractors.
 
Ron.....my wife counted them the other day and came up with a total............too many. She thinks I may have an OCD :)
 
My neighbor had a 3010 and a 60. One day when he was discing with the 3010 he got stuck. He unhitched the 3010, drove away and went to the house and got the 60. He backed up to the disc in the same wheel tracks and pulled it out!

The 2 cylinder's weight ratio makes a big difference in soft conditions.
 

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