3010/4010 implement sizes?

swindave · Dec 23, 2020

what size equipment would these tractors handle in average conditions?
4 or 5 bottom plows? disc? chisel? 1 or 2 row choppers? rotary mower?does gas or diesel make a difference?
just curious !
thanks for your help!

David G · Dec 23, 2020

There is a big difference between 3010 and 4010 in ability.

wore out · Dec 23, 2020

You must be writing a book! :lol:

MikeJM · Dec 23, 2020

At 4010 would struggle with a 5 bottom plow around these parts. And a 15 ft batwing would certainly make it earn its oats.

3010 is hardly worth talking about, 2/3 the engine and about 1/2 the tractor.

Diesels tend to run better overall in the long term, plus parts are easier to get. The gas version of those engines had a poor reputation for being difficult to tune and internal engine parts are starting to get more difficult to procure.

NY 986 · Dec 23, 2020

We pulled 4 X 16 plow with our 4010 diesel when we plowed. The tractor was tried out with a 5 bottom plow but some of the ground in back of the buildings was heavy to the point of working in 2nd gear with the 5 bottom. The 4 bottom allowed for using 4th gear as a minimum over 98 percent of the farm so that is what dad bought. Pulled a 14' disk and 14' roller harrow as well. Ran a 2 row chopper in good corn for the time. Also spread manure with a flail type spreader and ran a JD 347 wire baler for a number of years. Grandpa had a 3010 diesel and recall riding with him on it plowing with 3 X 16's.

J. Schwiebert · Dec 23, 2020

A good friend of mine had a 4010. They pulled 3-16
's with it.

NY 986 · Dec 23, 2020

Seems awfully small for a 4010. We had a neighbor who was extremely cheap back in the day. He bought a 1972 4020 diesel brand new and pulled 3 X 16 plow with it. When asked he replied that yes it would pull a larger plow but he was not buying one. He did not buy his 4020 because he thought it would become a collector tractor but because he waited until the very end of the closeout deals on the 20 series as the Gen II tractors were already out and bought his 4020 at a tremendous discount. If I remember correctly it was around 8,000 dollars.

rrlund · Dec 23, 2020

Uncle Claud bought a new 4010 diesel in 61. He got an F145 4 14 semi mount plow with it. I don't remember how big that Graham Holme chisel plow was, but not much wider than the tire width on the tractor. When he got the 4020 in 64, that was when things changed. In 66 he put a turbo, a cab and a pair of duals on it and weighted the daylights out of it. It was putting out 122 horses. He pulled 5 16s with it and a 28 foot field cultivator. There wasn't a tractor around here much bigger than that for a few years.

J. Schwiebert · Dec 23, 2020

There is a difference in soils here. If you go north of me about 10 miles there is some very nice soil and it is used for vegtables. You could pull 4-14.'s with a Super M!. Go the other way and a lot of Super 88 Olivers had a load with 2-16's.

NY 986 · Dec 23, 2020

Good to know. And we think that we have some heavy soils here but 2 X 16 making a Super 88 talk is something else.

SVcummins · Dec 23, 2020

3020 d1000 baler

4020 IHC 550 plow

3020 John Deere 100 tool carrier and John Deere lz1010 unit drills on tandem hitch

3020 f130 plow

4020 aerway pasture areator

3020 no.8 sickle mower nimble enough for any of the small jobs to

3020 -300 gallon 32 foot century sprayer

3020 du-al 3000 loader loading 1500 pound bales never figured out how to break a front end yet

4020 farmhand f11 loader

SVcummins · Dec 23, 2020

3 16 rollover is a good plow on the heavy ground and you can go a gear faster I’ve even went in 6th gear on light ground and sometimes 4th in heavy ground 3rd in really tough ground with a 5 bottom it’s 4th in light ground 3rd in heavy ground and 2nd in tough ground

NY 986 · Dec 23, 2020

The neighbor was pulling a JD trailer plow. Most likely a model 55.

DR. EVIL · Dec 23, 2020

DAD traded off a really nice J.I.Case 4-14 trailer plow for a slightly older and not as nice 5-14 Case trailer plow. He widened the MIDWEST plow harrow enough to cover all 5 bottoms, we go out to plow with our freshly repainted, all 4 new tires 4010 diesel and it can barely pull the 5-14's in sod in 2nd gear, in old corn ground we could run in 3rd. Plowed a day or two and Dad pulled the back bottom off. Then we could run 4th gear in corn ground. Dad had the supposedly best Deere mechanic tune it up but he must not have put it on a dyno, it ran like it was only making 65-70 hp, and it supposedly had the 4020 kit in the engine. We ran it a year like that, then Dad had a different guy come and rebuild the pump. It made 100-105 hp till it blew the head gasket fall plowing that fall. We pulled a 12 ft Kewanee 100 series disk with 20 inch rippled blades, no problem in plowed ground 5th gear.

larryanderson · Dec 23, 2020

The 4010 will pull 5/14 but not well in heavy soils 4 bottom better.21ft mounted cultivator is plenty and an 18ft disc would be enough. 3010 3 bottom,15ft field cultivator and 14ft disc

SVcummins · Dec 23, 2020

Maybe he forgot to put the number 6 piston in . I’ve got a 4020 running 115 horsepower at 540 rpm on a dyno and been that way since 2003 and no head gasket problems

JL2510 · Dec 24, 2020

We have a 4020 that my Grandfather bought new and had turned up in the early 70s. He said they pulled 5 bottom Oliver plows in 5th gear(dont know if they were 14" or 16"). It was rebuilt in the early 90s but only because a neighbor ran it low on oil while packing a trench silo and locked it up.

rrlund · Dec 24, 2020

That's the way it is around here. I pulled 3 14s with my Oliver 77. Uncle Claud lived about 5 miles southeast of here, had a lot more clay, only pulled 2 16s with his 88.

SHALER · Dec 24, 2020

Good suggestion Wore Out. With all these 'farming the 60's" threads that are appearing in the various forums (JD, IH, Tractor Talk), if Swindave is not going to write his
book, maybe I will! Of course I would be on the hook for paying hefty copyright fees to SVCummins for all his stock photography, so perhaps it may be a money losing
proposition.
I kinda wish some of these "just curious" threads would be posted in the dead of winter when there is nothing else to do...

Al Baker(pumpman) · Dec 24, 2020

For many years I pulled a 4x16 semi mount oliver plow with my 64 4020. 4 gear in light soil, 3rd in clay. A lot of guys in this area pulled 5, but It wasnt fast. Al

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