4440 low standby pressure?

Sudden change in system performance. Everything working fine one day, and at some point during the day the three point and all external hydraulics just stop working. Not weak or slow, just quit. Nothing unusual noted. No strange noises, etc. Steering still working fine, no change there at any point.

I found some earlier threads regarding this sort of thing with mention of a priority valve that can/will block flow to these functions if standby pressure falls below a certain point and steering will still be supplied. I have not checked the pressure yet, but will do so soon. Is it likely a drop in standby pressure to that degree could be corrected by a simple adjustment on the pump somewhere? Is it more more likely related to a drop in charge pressure/supply for whatever reason?

Owner is convinced it's a front pump failure of some sort and has I believe ordered a pump and wants me to install it. I have no intention of doing that until I run out of other options.
 

Harry
As you're probably aware many hyd pumps have been replaced before performing good diagnostics to determine that the pump replaced was not at fault.

I suggest to check stand-by pressure in front of priority valve. Also destroke/engage stroke control valve in frt pump.
 
(quoted from post at 12:35:44 07/04/20) Sudden change in system performance. Everything working fine one day, and at some point during the day the three point and all external hydraulics just stop working. Not weak or slow, just quit. Nothing unusual noted. No strange noises, etc. Steering still working fine, no change there at any point.

I found some earlier threads regarding this sort of thing with mention of a priority valve that can/will block flow to these functions if standby pressure falls below a certain point and steering will still be supplied. I have not checked the pressure yet, but will do so soon. Is it likely a drop in standby pressure to that degree could be corrected by a simple adjustment on the pump somewhere? Is it more more likely related to a drop in charge pressure/supply for whatever reason?

Owner is convinced it's a front pump failure of some sort and has I believe ordered a pump and wants me to install it. I have no intention of doing that until I run out of other options.

Is the transmission pump capable of enough flow to supply the transmission loads and still have at least 3-5gpm of flow left over to send to the front pump and cooler ?
 
Try turning the stroke valve screw in (clock wise) to see if the pressure comes up,, they system has a priority valve in the right front corner of the rockshaft, where the pressure oil enters,that will stop the flow to th rear when the pressure dips below 1750psi,, you may have been operating at the brink of this pressure and didn't know it.
 
(quoted from post at 21:44:55 07/04/20) Try turning the stroke valve screw in (clock wise) to see if the pressure comes up,, they system has a priority valve in the right front corner of the rockshaft, where the pressure oil enters,that will stop the flow to th rear when the pressure dips below 1750psi,, you may have been operating at the brink of this pressure and didn't know it.
y the pump illustration on the parts website it looks like that adjustment is a threaded stem on the bottom of the pump with a jam nut. Does that sound correct?

I plan to go out there later today, do some pressure testing and see what that tells me.
 
Yes that is correct, turn the wheels to gain access, loosen the jam nut with a 3/4" wrench and turn the screw in with a 7/32" Allen wrench,,if you don't get any result, back the screw out several turns while the tractor is running then back in,, this some times lets the stroke valve stem Jigger enough to free it if it is stuck. be careful that the steering don't creep as you adjust, it is a pinch zone..
 

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