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1969 JD 3020 Gas Powershift Opinions

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toto01

07-03-2020 11:04:30




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Looking at buying a 1969 JD 3020 Gas Powershift. Owner states is has ~ 4000 hrs on working tach. Has a JD 148 loader with it. I am intending on brush hogging with it and general chore work.

Only known issue is PTO spins sometimes while disengaged and not attached to anything. Other than general safety is this a major concern? I have heard mixed opinions...pto brake, warped clutch discs, linkage issue, etc.

What is everyone's thoughts on the 3020 gas Powershift in general?
Should I walk away from PTO issue?

Thanks

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troy78

07-04-2020 05:22:11




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 Re: 1969 JD 3020 Gas Powershift Opinions in reply to toto01, 07-03-2020 11:04:30  
I own a 3020 gas power shift. Very handy machine with plenty of power for the work I do with it. I use mine for square baling mostly. Its a lot of tractor for the money.



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wore out

07-03-2020 12:09:01




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 Re: 1969 JD 3020 Gas Powershift Opinions in reply to toto01, 07-03-2020 11:04:30  
As to the PTO, if it is attached to an implement (a rotary cutter, for example) is there enough PTO drag to drive the mower at all, or just enough drag to make the bare tractor PTO shaft turn?

On the left side of the tractor there is a valve assembly with ports to check the PTO clutch and brake pressures. They are labeled.

PTO clutch pressure should be "0" with PTO "off", and PTO brake pressure should be 150 PSI.

If that's what you find, the PTO brake is worn out, for sure, and if the PTO turns with any force at all there could be PTO clutch damage, as well.

PTO clutch repair requires a split at the engine, PTO brake repair requires a split between the clutch housing and rear end.

The most LIKELY scenario is that the PTO clutch is fine, and the brake has worn out or failed, connecting it to an implement as I mentioned in the first sentence will give you an idea if it's something you can live with, or something to walk a way from, as you don't want to pay the repair bill on this if it has to be split in two places to get the PTO working to your specifications.

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Mike M

07-03-2020 11:48:47




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 Re: 1969 JD 3020 Gas Powershift Opinions in reply to toto01, 07-03-2020 11:04:30  
Those powershifts zap some HP from them especially in cold weather. It would have to be a good buy before I'd get it. The gas engine alone is enough to keep most on here from it. Wonder if the pto just needs an adjustment ?



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NY 986

07-03-2020 11:43:47




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 Re: 1969 JD 3020 Gas Powershift Opinions in reply to toto01, 07-03-2020 11:04:30  
JD New Generation gas row crop tractors get a bad rap on here but there were more than a few 3010, 3020, 4010, and 4020 gas tractors around owned by guys who were not terribly patient so there must be a way to keep them running. Having said that a 3020 diesel is a whole lot better than a 3020 gas but it does not sound like the tractor will be pushed too hard to notice the increased fuel consumption. I'd insist on a cold start demo at its current home to see if there are any other problems. I'd fix the PTO that way you don't have to worry about somebody getting hurt from the PTO not fully deactivating. If done at a shop the cost with parts most likely will be several hundred dollars if a major issue is not unearthed.

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svcummins

07-03-2020 23:06:03




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 Re: 1969 JD 3020 Gas Powershift Opinions in reply to NY 986, 07-03-2020 11:43:47  
Id like to find a 3010 4010 3020 4020 gas some day



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NY 986

07-04-2020 06:04:12




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 Re: 1969 JD 3020 Gas Powershift Opinions in reply to svcummins, 07-03-2020 23:06:03  
There was an auction near here a couple weeks back that had 3010, 3020, and 4010 gas tractors. The farmer evidently was a New Generation gas row crop believer. There are others around this area that look well kept.



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svcummins

07-04-2020 15:22:06




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 Re: 1969 JD 3020 Gas Powershift Opinions in reply to NY 986, 07-04-2020 06:04:12  
What did they bring ?



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NY 986

07-04-2020 17:05:00




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 Re: 1969 JD 3020 Gas Powershift Opinions in reply to svcummins, 07-04-2020 15:22:06  
I did not go to the sale but heard the 4010 which was very low houred sold for 6,500 and the (early) 3020 around 4,500.



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larryanderson

07-04-2020 03:23:13




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 Re: 1969 JD 3020 Gas Powershift Opinions in reply to svcummins, 07-03-2020 23:06:03  
Very low hours.The 3020s are as handy as any tractor.The powershift will take some extra power but sounds like it will not be used to hard. With that amount of hours should be in excellent condition.The gas new generation tractors are not very desirable to many but will start easier when cold and most have figured out how to make them run better.



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