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Real world Chevy mpg

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svcummins

06-05-2020 19:19:17




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Freeway miles . Weighed the track on certified scales 6900 pounds single wheel regular cab .


Guess Iím doing something wrong because I did better than than that at 26000 gvw with my 98 diesel

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buickanddeere

06-08-2020 14:55:41




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to svcummins, 06-05-2020 19:19:17  
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I am never going to purchase a rusted out 20 year old truck.



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svcummins

06-08-2020 21:33:17




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to buickanddeere, 06-08-2020 14:55:41  
This one is 26 years old and just under 400,000 miles



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svcummins

06-08-2020 17:02:21




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to buickanddeere, 06-08-2020 14:55:41  
Mines 21 years old donít have hardly any rust



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buickanddeere

06-08-2020 11:01:59




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to svcummins, 06-05-2020 19:19:17  
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The high compression DI gassers are close to the tier IV diesels per BTU of fuel in efficiency. minus the weight, cost and complexity of a tier IV diesel. Cringe to think of diesels when the next d e m o c r a t allows the EPA to mandate Tier V and Tier VI emissions .



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svcummins

06-08-2020 14:45:03




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to buickanddeere, 06-08-2020 11:01:59  
Ainít gonna bother me cause Iíll never own one talk about a joke



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DoubleO7

06-07-2020 11:52:47




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to svcummins, 06-05-2020 19:19:17  
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The farmer could set the price if they were to ALL to agree on the price.

That will never happen because some farmer(s) somewhere will sell his for less no matter the end goal.



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svcummins

06-07-2020 16:25:41




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to DoubleO7, 06-07-2020 11:52:47  
Yes thatís just like guysí who say donít raise so much why the neighbor will just raise what you didnít and you just missed the opportunity to pay a few more bills and spread your cost a bit more



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37 chief

06-06-2020 20:12:07




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to svcummins, 06-05-2020 19:19:17  
You are doing something right, buying gas at 219.9. Add a dollar to that, and welcome to Califorina. Stan



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svcummins

06-06-2020 22:23:45




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to 37 chief, 06-06-2020 20:12:07  
Iíll bet by the time this deal gets over with Iíll imagine 4.19$ a gallon Will look like a bargain hope i am wrong . Why is it the farmer canít set his own prices ? Meat price goes up in the store but the price of live cattle drops even further so the packet can make even more off us



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JDEM

06-06-2020 15:09:08




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to svcummins, 06-05-2020 19:19:17  
Last week you claimed I was wrong, when I stated gas engines tend to make more power then diesels (when at similar tech levels). Now it seems since you could not win that argument, you have changed things around and saying the disagreement was about miles per gallon? Who here on this forum said anything about gas engines getting superior MPGs when working hard, then diesels? I know I never said anything close to that, nor did Mr. Buick-Deere. Who are you saying made that claim?

Again, a non-turbo gasoline engine will just about always make more power and torque then a non-turbo diesel, if same bore and stroke. Same with a boosted gas engine versus a boosted diesel. It is silly to compare a naturally aspirated gas engine to a turbocharged/intercooled diesel. I posted a lot of tech specs to back this up. You posted no real facts to the contrary.

That all said, when it comes to actual overall economy? Besides the extra purchase price pf a diesel, and extra cost of maintenance - there is also the issue of cost of fuel.

I have a 1994 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD with a gas 350 engine. A 1000 mile trip at 65 MPH will get 12.6 MPG. Total fuel cost is $150.79
I also have a 1994 Ford 3/4 ton 4WD with a 445 turbo diesel. A 1000 mile trip at 65 MPH will get 14.2 MPG. Total cost of fuel - $172.50

Are there diesel trucks that do better? Sure. My 1992 Dodge Cummins 4WD will get 18-19 MPG doing the same highway driving. That said, I have a 2008 Ford 1/2 ton 4WD with a 280 cubic inch engine that will get 22 MPG doing the same trip.

I am still trying to figure out exactly what it is that you are really trying to argue? Perhaps diesel are just "better" because that is how you feel?

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svcummins

06-06-2020 20:19:17




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to JDEM, 06-06-2020 15:09:08  
That superior gas engine was running down the freeway at 8000 pounds how is that worked hard? My diesel weighs 9800 pounds and pushes 2 more wheels and does better loaded than your gas engine does with 17000 pounds less Weight on it . And Iím still looking for all that horsepower you keep talking about never have Found it whereíd ya leave it ?



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buickanddeere

06-06-2020 06:43:41




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to svcummins, 06-05-2020 19:19:17  
Compare all costs of a 2020 Duramax
vs a 2020 5.3 DI, 6.2DI or 6.6DI over 150,000miles .



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svcummins

06-06-2020 12:27:47




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to buickanddeere, 06-06-2020 06:43:41  
The gas would have to get negative mpg to pay for the emissions garbage on a new diesel



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Mike M

06-06-2020 06:07:04




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to svcummins, 06-05-2020 19:19:17  
That is pretty much the same I got on my 1996 Dodge ram 2500 4x4 ext. cab with 360 gas and auto. That was going back and forth to work and even sitting idling in drive thru at lunch.



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svcummins

06-06-2020 12:27:06




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to Mike M, 06-06-2020 06:07:04  
Thatís not bad for a dodge gas in town mpg basically



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JDEM

06-06-2020 04:18:29




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to svcummins, 06-05-2020 19:19:17  
What point are you trying to make? A light duty gas engine in a truck got less MPGs then a medium-duty turbo diesel in another truck?



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svcummins

06-06-2020 12:32:41




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to JDEM, 06-06-2020 04:18:29  
I keep hearing how a gas gets better mpg and more power where is it? Not on paper,



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JDEM

06-06-2020 14:50:25




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to svcummins, 06-06-2020 12:32:41  
Oh come on! Hearing these claims where? You argued last week when I stated gas engines inherently make more power then diesels. You then seemed to get upset and added words into the argument that I never used. I never said anything about gas engines getting better MPGs then diesels. I said they make more power. You cannot figure out the difference? You seem to really want to argue but do not want to stick to facts?

By the way, if there IS someone here claiming gas engines tend to get better miles per gallon when doing work, then diesels - please tell us who and where.

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svcummins

06-06-2020 22:15:05




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to JDEM, 06-06-2020 14:50:25  


Iím still trying to find all this horsepower you say Is there but Iím just not coming up with it . I see it on paper but thatís about where it ends but your right it makes more horsepower just canít get to it or use it oh well .



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svcummins

06-06-2020 20:21:07




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to JDEM, 06-06-2020 14:50:25  
I still havenít found this horsepower you are so proud off ?



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blackhole49

06-06-2020 03:57:42




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to svcummins, 06-05-2020 19:19:17  
I usually don't trust averages on one tank of gas, too many variables. When I drove my Audi back to Detroit MI from Sacramento CA in 2013, the onboard computer consistently said 32 mpg. I took the road less traveled to Denver, then I80 to I94. I kept every gas receipt (including $4.69 per gallon just outside Yosemite), and in 4,200 miles, the real world average was 31.995. Included; a few pictures from a really great trip done on the cheap.

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svcummins

06-06-2020 12:35:45




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 Re: Real world Chevy mpg in reply to blackhole49, 06-06-2020 03:57:42  
I average every tank every time more than once itís caught a dirty fuel filter or other problem when the average suddenly drops 5 mpg for no reason . Thatís a beautiful trip Iím planning a California trip this fall with any luck anyway. Probably throw a box of tools in the car and ride it down it gets about 28 mpg average



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