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535 john deere not wanting to start roll

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ronnie wheat

06-04-2020 09:19:57




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Rolled hay 5 days in a row, no problems until yesterday last 5 windrows. Good hay, only been cut two days with disc mower raked with a krone ted. rake she put 3 in one. the hay was rubbing bottom of a 1135 tractor too big#one.My son was rolling he won't buy the fact it was to wet, green, and windrows were to big. He wanted me to ask anyone if this is normal for a 535.I saw it do it 3 times, look in roller has 8 to 10 inch in roller but it wasn't turning.I don't think we have a problem Son still insist i ask someone who has rolled with the 535.

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Tx Jim

06-10-2020 04:27:37




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 Re: 535 john deere not wanting to start roll in reply to ronnie wheat, 06-04-2020 09:19:57  
I'm glad welding fixed your problem.

I have no idea how many JD rd balers I've witnessed or recommended welding on worn starter roll bars/rods to aid bale core formation. Due to the abrasive soil where I live I've even experimented with success welding on round spiral rod on newer metal starter roll. I even added 14'' rods on each side of my 467 between the original rods. This has almost stopped coastal hay from bridging up between belts on each side of front of baler on rare lower humidity days.

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ronnie wheat

06-09-2020 16:03:07




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 Re: 535 john deere not wanting to start roll in reply to ronnie wheat, 06-04-2020 09:19:57  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeTX JIM you know your stuff welded the bars rolled 150 rolls worked like a new one.Thanks again.



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ronnie wheat

06-04-2020 12:07:59




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 Re: 535 john deere not wanting to start roll in reply to ronnie wheat, 06-04-2020 09:19:57  
JIM let me fully understand the welding,do i weld on top of rect.bars or on the side of bar. In other words do i make it larger, or side weld to make it wider?



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Tx Jim

06-04-2020 12:47:36




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 Re: 535 john deere not wanting to start roll in reply to ronnie wheat, 06-04-2020 12:07:59  
One can weld on "leading edge" of each rectangular bar with roller still in baler. My definition of leading edge is when viewing roller from the rear with tailgate raised & ""locked open"" the edge of the top rectangular bar that one can easily see is where I'm referring to add the bead. If you don't fully understand me then send an email with your phone # & I call you to explain it. If your baler has baled sufficient # of bales the edge of rectangular bar will be rounded off not square as when baler was new.

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ronnie wheat

06-04-2020 10:56:31




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 Re: 535 john deere not wanting to start roll in reply to ronnie wheat, 06-04-2020 09:19:57  
Orchard grass and fescue and weeds.



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ronnie wheat

06-04-2020 10:52:58




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 Re: 535 john deere not wanting to start roll in reply to ronnie wheat, 06-04-2020 09:19:57  
[quote="ronnie wheat"](reply to post at 18:48:07 06/04/20) [/quote TX JIM can the welding be done on starter roller inside roller or have to take out?



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Tx Jim

06-04-2020 10:52:40




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 Re: 535 john deere not wanting to start roll in reply to ronnie wheat, 06-04-2020 09:19:57  
You're welcome. What type of crop are you attempting to bale?



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ronnie wheat

06-04-2020 10:48:07




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 Re: 535 john deere not wanting to start roll in reply to ronnie wheat, 06-04-2020 09:19:57  
Has a few teeth missing on pick up.And the belt is glazed on gripping sides.I adjusted tension spring to about max. So i know it needs a new belt.Thanks TX JIM



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Tx Jim

06-04-2020 10:02:04




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 Re: 535 john deere not wanting to start roll in reply to ronnie wheat, 06-04-2020 09:19:57  
Yes I've experienced core starting very good then core starting becomes a problem.

Are the majority of teeth in pickup? My next guess is pickup drive belt is slipping a little bit.
If your baler has the metal starting roller with the rectangular bars welded to it you can weld a bead on the leading edge of the rectangular bar to aid with core starting problems. I've even welded on the spiral rods on the later style starting rollers.
One needs to grind off any weld splatters especially when utilizing net wrap.

I supervised welding on several starter rolls on JD rd balers when I was employed as JD dealer service manager plus my own rd balers. I've welded 14'' rods on each end of roller between existing rods so my starter roll has more grip on the hay.

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