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gregjo1948

02-14-2020 04:30:07




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I got a 455 John Deere lawn/garden tractor with a Yanmar diesel engine and 60" mower deck in to work on. Have 2 oil leaks to deal with. First one was oil pan metal drain pipe leak where it's welded into the pan. For $345.00 I decided to JB weld it instead of replacing. Pain in the a-- to remove but got it done and sealed fine. The second leak is the power steering cylinder. (tractor is front steering only) My problem is how to determine the correct cylinder to purchase. There appears to be several choices depending on the tractor serial number. I can't locate the serial number for the tractor but do have the number for the engine. Does anyone know where the tractor serial number is located? If the number is missing, how can I determine the cylinder that I need? thank you, gregjo1948

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Jim.ME

02-14-2020 06:58:29




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 Re: serial # in reply to gregjo1948, 02-14-2020 04:30:07  
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Rod diameters are different. Bores are about 1/2" different so OD of the small bore will likely be about the same as the bore of the larger one. Stroke of one is about double the other. 3-1/2" difference in closed length. May be able to tell even without removing it.



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Jim.ME

02-14-2020 06:19:28




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 Re: serial # in reply to gregjo1948, 02-14-2020 04:30:07  
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Here is the parts catalog page for 455 steering. https://partscatalog.deere.com/jdrc/sidebyside/equipment/82143/referrer/navigation/pgId/330886268.

It looks like the front cylinders end up subbing to just two numbers, AM147174 and AM147176. Here are the specs of both. There are differences so maybe you can measure yours up and match to one or the other. HTH

Jim



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Mike M

02-14-2020 06:40:01




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 Re: serial # in reply to Jim.ME, 02-14-2020 06:19:28  
The description on the one says (2ws) which I would guess means 2 wheel steering verses the 4 wheel steering models. The other one does not specify in the description ? Hum. Looks like enough difference in length once you get it off should be able to figure it out.



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Jim.ME

02-14-2020 05:16:40




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 Re: serial # in reply to gregjo1948, 02-14-2020 04:30:07  
I believe it has/had a product ID sticker (serial number) on the right frame rail.



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gregjo1948

02-14-2020 05:32:04




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 Re: serial # in reply to Jim.ME, 02-14-2020 05:16:40  
Thanks Jim. I thought so too but this machine doesn't have it. gregjo1948



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Mike M

02-14-2020 05:06:08




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 Re: serial # in reply to gregjo1948, 02-14-2020 04:30:07  
I'm guessing that is one of those welded together cylinders ? The lift cyl. on my F725 was leaking. Very expensive to buy a new one. So I cut mine apart in the lathe at the weld on the butt end and resealed it and had it welded back together. Turned out nice.



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gregjo1948

02-14-2020 05:36:10




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 Re: serial # in reply to Mike M, 02-14-2020 05:06:08  
Sounds like a good job done. I don't have a lathe and I'd probably make a mess of it trying to weld it back together. Thanks for your input. I'm going to remove the leaker this morning and maybe I'll find a hidden number on it. gregjo1948



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gregjo1948

02-14-2020 04:38:58




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 Re: serial # in reply to gregjo1948, 02-14-2020 04:30:07  
Forgot to mention that I can't find a number on the cylinder either. gregjo1948



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