John deere 1050 PTO problem

Clyde15

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I have a 1985 John Deere 1050. The PTO is currently engaged and will not release. The lever to engage the PTO moves freely without the normal resistance. Does anyone know how to access the inside area where the PTO engages? I hate to take it apart without knowing what I am doing.
 
Go to the link below, and look up the parts diagram on the official parts site, that may give SOME insight.
Parts
 
That model has a "live" PTO using dual stage clutch. Could it be that the PTO clutch is "frozen" in the engaged position? Still, the lever moving easier than normal makes me
think the the linkage may have come disconnected or possibly a shifter fork is broken. Start by examining the portion of the linkage that external on the tractor.
 
(quoted from post at 10:09:33 08/10/19) Go to the link below, and look up the parts diagram on the official parts site, that may give SOME insight.
Parts

Thanks for the information. It provides information about the inside of the PTO. Any idea of how or what to remove to get to the inside? The PTO handle and shaft both move so I assume the problem is inside.
 
If the problem is the clutch, then it's split the tractor, not dig into the trany. If in the trany, you might not have to split the tractor. Put a really heavy load on that PTO and see
if you can get the PTO clutch to disengage.
 
(quoted from post at 12:14:33 08/11/19) If the problem is the clutch, then it's split the tractor, not dig into the trany. If in the trany, you might not have to split the tractor. Put a really heavy load on that PTO and see
if you can get the PTO clutch to disengage.

Thanks to all for the information.
Used an augers to dig a post hole. The auger quit turning when the clutch was disengaged. Not a desirable way to use the tractor.
 
What am I missing here ? Now you say the pto auger quits turning when the clutch is disengaged. That sounds like normal operation to me ?
 
Mike M has it right. The two stage clutch in the tractor is designed so that if operating properly, with the engine running, tractor transmission in gear, PTO lever engaged,
foot off the clutch pedal, the tractor is moving and the PTO is turning. If the clutch pedal is depressed about half way, the tractor's motion will stop but the PTO will continue
turning. Then if the clutch pedal is pushed the whole way down, the PTO rotation will stop too. This is handy so that one can shift transmission speeds without stopping the
PTO. Also, one can stop the tractor's motion while leaving the PTO driven implement running to help in clearing out slugs in the implement. So, from what I'm understanding
from your description, all is well and operating as it should.
 
(quoted from post at 12:52:57 08/10/19) I have a 1985 John Deere 1050. The PTO is currently engaged and will not release. The lever to engage the PTO moves freely without the normal resistance. Does anyone know how to access the inside area where the PTO engages? I hate to take it apart without knowing what I am doing.

Somebody may have lost the operator s manual. The good news is that the manual can be replaced . 1-800-522-7448.
The manual explains the clutch,pto and operation of everything else.
I hope nobody has been grinding gears while attempting to engage the PTO without the 2nd stage of the foot clutch being operated
 
(quoted from post at 05:23:54 08/12/19) Mike M has it right. The two stage clutch in the tractor is designed so that if operating properly, with the engine running, tractor transmission in gear, PTO lever engaged,
foot off the clutch pedal, the tractor is moving and the PTO is turning. If the clutch pedal is depressed about half way, the tractor's motion will stop but the PTO will continue
turning. Then if the clutch pedal is pushed the whole way down, the PTO rotation will stop too. This is handy so that one can shift transmission speeds without stopping the
PTO. Also, one can stop the tractor's motion while leaving the PTO driven implement running to help in clearing out slugs in the implement. So, from what I'm understanding
from your description, all is well and operating as it should.[/quot

That is correct. The clutch is operating correctly. The problem is the PTO shift lever is not working. The lever moves and the shaft the lever is connected to moves. The problem is inside the tractor. I am trying to find out how or what to remove to get to the inside. Has anyone else had this problem or know how to repair this.
 
Without the aid of a service manual, I'm not sure, but from the on-line parts diagrams, it appearss the entire rock shaft lift assembly probably has to come off in order to
have access to the inside of the differential housing where the PTO shift linkage, fork, collar etc. are located. Without the manual, and if you're intimidated by the job, most
any independent tractor repair shop should be able to do the job. It's not rocket science. Parts availability could be a problem though.
 
(quoted from post at 03:06:41 08/14/19) Without the aid of a service manual, I'm not sure, but from the on-line parts diagrams, it appearss the entire rock shaft lift assembly probably has to come off in order to
have access to the inside of the differential housing where the PTO shift linkage, fork, collar etc. are located. Without the manual, and if you're intimidated by the job, most
any independent tractor repair shop should be able to do the job. It's not rocket science. Parts availability could be a problem though.

Talked to a tractor repair shop. Rockshaft has to come off was told it was probably a $2 roll pin. Labor would be 5 to 6 hundred. Will order a service manual and try the repair myself. Thanks to all for the information.
 

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