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60 stuck valve

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Monkeymaster

06-10-2019 11:30:11




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JD 60 sat for 5 years.

Removed the plugs, shot some oil in the cylinders, whirled her over and number 1 cylinder had no compression, number 2 was fine.

Looked in thru the spark plug hole and saw the valve was open.

Whirled engine over watching the valve and the valve did not move in or out.

Do 60's have hydrulic lifters ?

Was wondering if the lifter had bled down and not pumped back up to make the valve move.

Tractor ran when stored, block was drained.

Looking for ideas before I remove the valve cover to see what if anything I can see.

Was thinking maybe a rocker is broke, or bent push rod, ect ?

Thanks in advance.

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Monkeymaster

06-16-2019 18:07:22




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 Re: 60 stuck valve in reply to Monkeymaster, 06-10-2019 11:30:11  
Took valve cover off, got the exhaust valve to close after a few light taps with a wooden mallet.
The intake valve was stuck open also, that one was a little more persistent, but again about twice the amount of taps got it to close.
I removed the plugs and rolled her over to check the valves and to make sure she had compression.
Compression is good now that t hy e valves actually close.
The intake does not want to close completely, so I shot some wd40 on the shaft and rolled her over, then shot some more a did it again,ect,ect.
Left her for the night, she did not close about every other time I rolled her over.
Will work on it again later.
I noticed the rocker oil lines had oil coming out only for the exhaust rockers, not the intakes.
I did not see any holes above the intake rockers even though they had holes for oil,but I did not have a mirror to look in under the line.
Is there suppossed to be holes for the intake rockers ?
I will look again with a mirror.
Thanks again.

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buickanddeere

06-15-2019 09:07:55




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 Re: 60 stuck valve in reply to Monkeymaster, 06-10-2019 11:30:11  
I thought the optional long axles were collectable ?



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Bob Harvey

06-12-2019 16:52:15




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 Re: 60 stuck valve in reply to Monkeymaster, 06-10-2019 11:30:11  
You should have already removed the valve cover. My '53 60 sat out in the weather for almost 10 years before I retrieved it. Dry country. Had to mess with the points and cap (broken), but got it running enough to drive into my pal's van. We had to cut the extended axles to get it in. My pal offered to cut slots in his 5T van box. Since then, my total investment is about $3.5K. Still on the same tires I bought it with in '71. P.S. Paid $400 and drove in on another pals trailer. More Loong story if interested. b

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Monkeymaster

06-11-2019 07:50:45




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 Re: 60 stuck valve in reply to Monkeymaster, 06-10-2019 11:30:11  
Rope
Good idea Thanks



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rustred

06-10-2019 19:57:26




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 Re: 60 stuck valve in reply to Monkeymaster, 06-10-2019 11:30:11  
no such thing as hyd. lifters back then. u got moisture from sitting and should have had the cyl's lubed before parking it. plus good idea to turn engine over periodically. now need to pull valve cover and inspect . lube up first the stem then try tapping very lightly to see if it moves inward. then see if you can use something to push it back out through plug hole. even if you have to push a buch of rope inside cyl so piston can push it. go gently back and forth with lube on both ends.

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MSM

06-10-2019 11:40:30




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 Re: 60 stuck valve in reply to Monkeymaster, 06-10-2019 11:30:11  
No hydraulic lifters. Might as well remove the valve cover. Valve is probably stuck from sitting.



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Monkeymaster

06-15-2019 06:10:50




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 Re: 60 stuck valve in reply to MSM, 06-10-2019 11:40:30  
Thanks
Hint.....
Hold on to the penetrating oil straw when spraying it in thru the plug hole !
Yes, I shot it into the cylinder.
Yes, I used some electric fence wire with a hook and got it out.
Just a heads up.



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