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47A Engine Locked Up

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oldmanandakid

02-05-2013 20:12:10




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I have an A that has not been started in about 20 years. When I bought the tractor the engine turned freely, perhaps a bit too freely for my thinking. It was towed home about 6 miles and has sat several months since with the stacks covered. Now the engine will not turn at all. Any thought about what I should be looking for?




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oldmanandakid

02-26-2013 17:28:01




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 Re: 47A Engine Locked Up in reply to oldmanandakid, 02-05-2013 20:12:10  
Success! Thanks guys. Nine days of pressure pulling against the flywheel did nothing. The front was elevated about 2 feet and the cylinders filled with ATF. Next rocking failed but today a six foot pry bar on the flywheel did the trick. And yes despite the warning I got an ATF bath. It was worth to see that engine turn. Now the real work will start and I am sure I will return here with many more questions.

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BushogPapa

02-06-2013 12:40:10




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 Re: 47A Engine Locked Up in reply to oldmanandakid, 02-05-2013 20:12:10  
If you had not covered the area over the Exhaust manifold..the Exhaust manifold gaskets were likely blown out and water got into the engine from there.. Very common place for water to get in..

Ron.



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old

02-06-2013 08:45:58




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 Re: 47A Engine Locked Up in reply to oldmanandakid, 02-05-2013 20:12:10  
#1 make sure it does not have any water in the cylinders. Then #2 jack the front of it up about 18 inches. #3 fill the cylinders full of ATF and put the plugs back in. Let it sit a week.set a good 12 volt Battery in it with the plugs out give it a try. Almost bet it will spin over but watch out the ATF will shoot out making a mess. My B sat a long time and locked up and that is how I freed it up plus a good number of other tractors with the ATF treatment. The reason on the JDs to jack it up is so the ATF gets where it needs to go and flows down all around the pistons

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Harvey 2

02-06-2013 08:09:43




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 Re: 47A Engine Locked Up in reply to oldmanandakid, 02-05-2013 20:12:10  
I have unstuck a lot of John Deeres; One way I do is take the valve cover off and see if any of the valves are stuck shut, if any are stuck shut loosen the rocker arm so you won't break a tappet when the engine does turn. Next step is get a long pry bar and hook it to the fly wheel and put pressure on it,soak the cylinders with your favorite panther pee and leave for several days, every now and then put more pressure on pry bar till it begins to turn and then rock flying wheel back and forth. One other way is if you aren't in a hurry back tractor up to a tree and jack front end up and hook chain around tree to tractor and leave in high gear, the weight of tractor some times will turn engine. And then sometimes I have had to take engine appart to get it loose

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JohnDeereJimOhio

02-06-2013 07:25:19




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 Re: 47A Engine Locked Up in reply to oldmanandakid, 02-05-2013 20:12:10  
Let it soak in ATF and diesel and try rocking it as mentioned. Then if that doesn't work rig up a pole on the flywheel and hang some wait on it. Keep spraying and checking it. One day you will come out and the weights will be on the floor and it will be loose.. If you plan on redoing it the easiest safest way is pull the motor and push the pistons out...



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Greenday

02-06-2013 04:44:29




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 Re: 47A Engine Locked Up in reply to oldmanandakid, 02-05-2013 20:12:10  
How is he supposed to "crank it to check" if the engine is stuck????? ?????



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Ben.So.Tex

02-06-2013 04:02:03




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 Re: 47A Engine Locked Up in reply to oldmanandakid, 02-05-2013 20:12:10  
Spray alittle oil in the cylinders-leave plugs out
put in about 5th gear and try rocking the rear wheel and it might just come loose. I would not pull it with a tractor, you could bend a rod. Do the eazy stuff 1st. Good Luck.



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husker44a

02-05-2013 22:22:32




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 Re: 47A Engine Locked Up in reply to oldmanandakid, 02-05-2013 20:12:10  
Its not in gear and the clutch engaged is it ? Assuming not. Remove the spark plugs and make sure its not locked up from a leaking headgasket. Crank it over to check. If still no go. You can remove plugs and pull it with another tractor or vehicle engaging the clutch lightly to break it free. If still no go you'll have to remove the head, block. I've never seen or heard of one sticking over a few months time. Good luck.

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Mike n Mo

02-06-2013 05:00:50




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 Re: 47A Engine Locked Up in reply to husker44a, 02-05-2013 22:22:32  
Husker, I bought a "B" that stuck over a weeks time. I looked at the tractor, it turned over easy, but didn't run. I went back a week later to get it, and it would NOT turn over. We put it in high gear and rocked it some to pop it loose. It was stored inside as well. So outside with the stacks uncovered is just a stuck engine waiting to happen. Mike



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