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How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges

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Fred from MO

04-09-2012 07:51:52




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I have never had an operating temperature gauge on my tractor. So I am unsure of what is normal. I have looked up in the manual but do not see a normal temperature rating listed. I purchased an aftermarket remake JD temperature gauge and I question the accuracy, but regardless, I am in the break-in stage of the engine so it will naturally run hot for a little while. According to the gauge it runs 170 gage temp without doing much work, but when I hitched it to the 8 foot mower in tall grass I got it up to 270 gauge temp. Oddly based on how hot the tractor has worked in the past the engine did not "feel" all that hot at 270 based on my past experiences mowing in summer ect. I have read some past posts on cheap gauges and Im second guessing my purchases. I also had some issues with the new oil pressure gauge I purchased. I was somewhat alarmed at the lack of oil pressure (or so I thought) with the new gauge I installed after rebuild. Turns out that the oil pressure gauge runs normal when the needle is just on the low side of medium at a high RPM (the gauge is of the H-M-L kind). I checked this with a calibrated gauge at the tap on the governor and it read 14.7 PSI. I have read Duane Larson's article on cheap gauges and I would agree with what he found back then.

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Badger08

04-09-2012 21:46:46




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to Fred from MO, 04-09-2012 07:51:52  
Fred, might not be much help but will just comment that my 1956 50 with the original gauge the hottest I have had it is 150-155ish. I believe it starts out at 140 and goes to 170, but plowing that's all the warmer it gets up to. Gauge after all these years could be off, who knows, but that's how mine runs.



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ss55

04-09-2012 13:48:38




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to Fred from MO, 04-09-2012 07:51:52  
You can test your new gauge in a pot of boiling water just like you would check that a new thermostate opens properly before you install it. If the new gauge is inaccurate you will then know how far it's off and can estimate the corrected temperatures based on what the new gauge says. You can also place an HVAC thermometer or a kitchen candy thermometer in the pot of water to check the new guage at temperature besides 212F boiling.

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Fred from MO

04-09-2012 14:21:21




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to ss55, 04-09-2012 13:48:38  
I agree with your statement and should have done that looking back now. I did test it in a pot of boiling water to see if the gauge responded before I installed it on the tractor, but did not record the temperature only if the gauge responded. My mistake!



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F-I-T

04-09-2012 09:09:01




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to Fred from MO, 04-09-2012 07:51:52  
Should have bought from Jerry Trcka/Evergreen Restoration.



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F-I-T

04-09-2012 11:00:43




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to F-I-T, 04-09-2012 09:09:01  
He sells "new" as well. Not sure of a website or not, but found this:

Evergreen Restoration ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- --
Business Description:

Specializing in 2 Cylinder and New Generation Gauges. Reglass any Circle Gauge from 2" to 5". Made in the USA


Phone: 715) 635-8629


Email Address: jdgauges@yahoo.com

Address:

W7619 Walnut Drive

City:

Spooner


State / Province:

Wisconsin

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machinery-man

04-09-2012 13:54:38




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to F-I-T, 04-09-2012 11:00:43  
Don't want to get into politics but I'm not sure what value the gauge has. Most of the tractors I've owned would tend to go the high side when under a steady load. A lot of the siphion tractos would just peg out. If you've increase the bore I can't see why it would not run hot under load and if anything you need heat for the unleaded gas to burn properly. I think most of the modern stuff is running about 230-240 degrees.

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FactoryFarmer

04-09-2012 15:23:42




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to machinery-man, 04-09-2012 13:54:38  
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Actually most of it runs around 170-190 form my experience, except for the new Duramax's.



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F-I-T

04-09-2012 15:14:44




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to machinery-man, 04-09-2012 13:54:38  
Every engine I have that is water cooled has an operating temperature gauge, or an indicator lamp in the case of the two newer ones. My old VAC Case, with a fresh head, new rings, old pistons, and a little wear in the bore, runs at its thermostat rated temperature for an hour on the dyno, on this new gasoline that, honestly, we have been burning since the unleaded catalytic converter cars came out in the 1975 model year. My 70D runs right at it's thermostat rated temperature for an hour on the dyno, but it has a new radiator core, thorough engine rebuild, etc.

My little diesels run at their prescribed temperature during dyno runs just fine. I need a temp gauge on my old stuff so I know if chaff plugged up the fins, or something else is wrong with the system.

Fred, is your an early '60', without the upper water pipe thermostat, or does it have that kluge of a design that was supposed to operate the shutters? If the latter, I would look into how to fashion up a conversion to get the upper thermostat in there. In my opinion, makes a world of difference.

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Fred from Mo

04-10-2012 04:13:33




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to F-I-T, 04-09-2012 15:14:44  
Unfortunately its the early klug of a design!



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Fred from MO

04-09-2012 11:08:07




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to F-I-T, 04-09-2012 11:00:43  
Thanks for the help Frank!



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Fred from MO

04-09-2012 09:45:01




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to F-I-T, 04-09-2012 09:09:01  
Frank I thought he restored gauges and not just sold them? Does he have a website?



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CLW

04-09-2012 09:01:33




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to curt2510, 04-09-2012 07:51:52  
You mean like our government does?



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gtx1967jewison

04-09-2012 08:27:29




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to Fred from MO, 04-09-2012 07:51:52  
Right! You elected to send more $ one-way to china & got exactly what you paid for. Junk. Some 8 yr old girl with bloody fingers built those.



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Fred from MO

04-09-2012 09:52:14




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to gtx1967jewison, 04-09-2012 08:27:29  
LOL! Sadly it is hard not to find something made in China or another country these days. Sitting at my desk, cant find one thing. I thought the bottle of "white out" might be made here but it was made in malaysia. My Bostich Stapler is made in China. I did find on the bottom of my Scotch brand tape dispenser that it says St. Paul (but I believe that is just the home base of 3M). Coffee cup-China-no brainer there. This is a sad state we are in! I hope we don't go to war with China, they probably manufacture the guns and bullets to boot! The american people have sold ourselves out I am afraid-started in the 1970's.

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gtx1967jewison

04-10-2012 19:25:15




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to Fred from MO, 04-09-2012 09:52:14  
Yup. But don't worry it wont be a war. They'll simply change the locks here, & shut the ships off over there. The end. - jerry Tryka has real gauges. Good luck.



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gtx1967jewison

04-10-2012 19:03:30




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to Fred from MO, 04-09-2012 09:52:14  
Yup. But don't worry it wont be a war. They'll simply change the locks here, & shut the ships off over there. The end. - jerry Tryka has real gauges. Good luck.



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Jery

04-09-2012 12:17:34




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 Re: How hot do they run Normally-JD 60-aftermarket gauges in reply to Fred from MO, 04-09-2012 09:52:14  
www.jdgauges.com



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