Help ID of a JD tractor

Tx Jim · Feb 27, 2012

Please can anyone can help me identify this JD tractor. The owner is in France and states it's a 303 but no JD parts catalog for a 303. I'm not familiar with a 710 but I thought that's what it is except the engine is incorrect for a 4 cyl Mannheim tractor. The air intake,exhaust manifold & lift pump are on the opposite side of engine .Thanks for any help,Jim

donjr · Feb 27, 2012

1520?

Cliff Nelson · Feb 27, 2012

Maybe a repower engine? Look at where the engine attaches to the clutch housing. The plate on the engine looks like it was cut out with a torch. Possibly a homemade adapter plate? I have never seen an engine like that one.

Tx Jim · Feb 27, 2012

(quoted from post at 08:53:02 02/27/12) 1520?

donjr
:roll: Not even close to a 1520 but thanks anyway,Jim

Tx Jim · Feb 27, 2012

(quoted from post at 09:04:33 02/27/12) Maybe a repower engine? Look at where the engine attaches to the clutch housing. The plate on the engine looks like it was cut out with a torch. Possibly a homemade adapter plate? I have never seen an engine like that one.

I agree as I've never seen an engine that remotely resembles it. I'm trying to help a man on another tractor forum from France determine why it won't start.Thanks,Jim

PeterE · Feb 27, 2012

There was a model 303, built in Saran (France). I believe that Saran built their own engines (not sure whose design it was).

cumminspuller · Feb 27, 2012

I'm out on this one. I can remember hardly any numbers from Euro tractors. That doesn't look like any deere engines I've ever seen before though. Good luck

donjr · Feb 27, 2012

Just a guess. Gotta 10-20 series hoodline, but they never made a smaller tracto until after the -20 series started, and the 1020 and 820 were 3 cylinder.

kseaton65 · Feb 27, 2012

TX JIM

i believe what you have is a repowered lanz 300 or 700, it looks to me like the clutch housing has been cut down and the hood repositioned, on a 700 or 300 lanz the battery should sit on the cluch housing just like a 510 or 710, 510's and 710's rear sections are almost identical but if you look at the footboards you can see its a 300 or 700 lanz

thats my opinion, i have a restored 510 if you would like pictures of anything

Tx Jim · Feb 27, 2012

PeterE
That's exactly what he states it is but does anyone know the parts catalog number as I can't locate one on JDparts.com? Does the engine have glow plugs or manifold heater??Thanks,Jim

PeterE · Feb 27, 2012

The manual mentions a pre-heat on the ignition key (pressing in? my French isn't very good).

The wiring diagram shows glow plugs.

kseaton65 · Feb 27, 2012

Jim

doing a little google searching it is for sure a john deere 303 tractor, what i believe i have translated from some french sites and checking some pictures in google the engine is a standard motor 23c, which is the same engine as a Massey ferguson MF35, u can see this by typing standard 23c motor into google. As for the starting aid i am unsure of the wiring because i cannot see the picture clear enough but judging by some of the masseys ive seen as well as the parts manual for my 510, the tractor probably has a flame start setup on it like many other european tractors

leon · Feb 27, 2012

For political reasons, for a number of years, Deere had to put So. African "manufactured" Perkins engines in Mannheim built tractors destined for So. Africa. Perhaps this is one of those.

Tx Jim · Feb 27, 2012

Thanks for all the help. Everyone's replies is one of the reasons I think YTMAG AKA Yesterdays Tractors is the "best tractor site" on the planet!!!!!!!!!!

4020guy · Feb 27, 2012

Looks like a Standard diesel [British] used on little Massey Furgusons. As Cliff said looks like a adapter plate joining everything together. JD-Lanze tractors were 300's, 500's, & 700's, the 3&5's being 3 cylinders. They later became the 310, 510,& 710 with the 5&710 being exported to Canada in the late 60's. They were a Lanze tractor with a Saran built Dubuque designed 151 cu in & 202cu in engines. The next series were the 920,1120,&2120 exported worldwide except for the US......Ron

kseaton65 · Feb 27, 2012

(quoted from post at 19:59:58 02/27/12) Looks like a Standard diesel [British] used on little Massey Furgusons. As Cliff said looks like a adapter plate joining everything together. JD-Lanze tractors were 300's, 500's, & 700's, the 3&5's being 3 cylinders. They later became the 310, 510,& 710 with the 5&710 being exported to Canada in the late 60's. They were a Lanze tractor with a Saran built Dubuque designed 151 cu in & 202cu in engines. The next series were the 920,1120,&2120 exported worldwide except for the US......Ron

just a side note, i believe the 300, 500, 700 tractors used 1010, and 2010 motors, and the later 310,510, used the 3.152 diesels and the 710 used the 4.202 engine

PeterE · Feb 27, 2012

The Deere factory manual for the 303 indicates a 4-cylinder 138 ci (2260cc) engine.

kseaton65 · Feb 27, 2012

ya heres the specs for a standard 23c diesel engine

Type: Standard 23C
Fuel: diesel
Aspiration: natural
Cylinders: 4
Displacement: 137.89 ci [2.3 L]
Power: 37.25 hp [27.8 kW]
Cooling: liquid
Compression: 20:1
Firing order: 1-3-4-2

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K in Iowa · Feb 28, 2012

Peter,
You have a tractor that was indeed manufactured by Deere from 1961 - 1966...the engine is of the size and type that should be in the tractor.

A collection of three farm companies - Rouseaux, Remy and Thiebaud - created the CCM 1 prototype tractor in "61. A second prototype was created, but never produced because Deere joined the group and built a new factory in Saran. That factory opened in "62. The 303 was produced a year later for the French market.

The engine - the one you have - is a British Standard-Triumph diesel. This was one of the first Deere / Lanz tractors to drop the John Deere-Lanz plate in favor of the John Deere name alone.

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