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Steering on a MT

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Wormburner

02-09-2012 12:38:42




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Is there a way to tighten steering in a 1950 MT?
When you hold the steering wheel front has a lot of play in it




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Hadley

02-10-2012 11:36:29




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 Re: Steering on a MT in reply to Wormburner, 02-09-2012 12:38:42  
If you take off the hood and the front nose cone/radiator cover there is a tensioning adjustment on top of the pedestal. You just loosen the jam nut and tighten down the screw, then reset the jam nut. Be sure not to overtighten screw! This will take out some slack for worn parts, just all depends on how much slack you have and where the steering is worn.



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Dan Byler

02-10-2012 10:11:25




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 Re: Steering on a MT in reply to Wormburner, 02-09-2012 12:38:42  
The steering on my MT also has a lot of play - the pins that fit into the worm gear are worn and actually a little loose. I'm wondering where to get replacement pins, and does anyone have any tips on how to replace them? If I replace the pins do I also need to replace the worm gear?



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Hotflashr

02-10-2012 15:09:47




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 Re: Steering on a MT in reply to Dan Byler, 02-10-2012 10:11:25  
Dave Cook Tractor parts and ebay for pins. A guy in Gren Mag from MD has new worm gears but they are not cheap! Not sure who else may have them but Dave Cook may as well.

The pins are in with the heads peened over like a rivet. You grind them off then use a drift to bang them out. Put in the new pins and round off the heads like a rivet.



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leon

02-10-2012 04:44:34




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 Re: Steering on a MT in reply to Wormburner, 02-09-2012 12:38:42  
I found that most of the "slop" in mine was in the splined coupler that's in the vertical shaft. At that time a new splined coupler was available from Deere though not cheap, maybe still is available. Replacing the coupler pretty much fixed the problem. Most of the wear was in the coupling not the shafts. I've heard of cutting the coupler in half, lengthwise, then clamping it tightly around the splined shaft before welding together again.

Under the hood where it couldn't be seen, I simply drilled then put a 1/4" bolt through the steering shaft and tube, eliminating the telescoping feature, but eliminating it coming loose too!

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tstex

02-09-2012 15:41:27




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 Re: Steering on a MT in reply to Wormburner, 02-09-2012 12:38:42  
This is what I did when i restored my MT...

I have seen many questions regarding welded steering wheels and slipping steering shafts with the M & MT's. I believe I have found a very viable alternative. This solution doesn't require any welding and keeps the view of the steering wheel 100% original...the only drawback is the steering shaft now becomes stationary, meaning it will not slide in & out [Like all the other Deere's]. When following these instructions, please refer to page 50-4 in the M series JD Parts Catalog [PC-848].

Remove the Hood to access the steering tube [AM 438T]. Then you will have to disengage the Lock knob, [AM 439T] if yours even works, so the steering shaft [ M 589T]can slide/come all the way out...for some of you, this means removing the wiring or cracking an old weld or some other home remedy.

Once the steering shaft can slide back and forth, move the steering shaft out far enough so you can line the groove-pin [25H 95A] with the hole that is in the steering-tube [the hole in the steering tube is very close to the instrument panel]. hint - turn your steering wheel, which will turn the steering tube, to make the hole in the steering tube face straight up.

Now you need to knock out the groove-pin...it may take some heat like mine did. Be persistent to get this groove pin out…Now that the groove-pin is out, you can slide your steering shaft all the way out. Towards the end of the shaft you can see a hole where the groove pin [1/4" X 7/8"] previously resided.

Put the Steering shaft back in the EXACT WAY it came out. Line up the steering shaft so you can see the groove-pin hole back in line with the hole in the steering tube. This next step is very important.

Your steering shaft/wheel should be in an extended mode right now, what you want to do is measure the exact distance of the exposed telescopic steering shaft, which should be from the steering wheel to where the steering shaft enters the Steering support [AM 803T]…the distance should be approximately 7 inches & 7/8 inch…now, when you now slide the steering shaft all the way back in, the groove-pin hole in the steering shaft slides back exactly the same distance, 7 & 7/8 inches…so, measure [whatever yours is] the distance you come up with from the center of the hole in the steering tube, and that is where you will drill a new hole in the steering tube. The idea is to drill a new hole that is centered 7 & 7/8 inches further away from the old hole…NOTE – the holes must be perfectly aligned. I used a 9/32 steel drill bit after I used a punch to get the hole started. Since the Steering tube is hollow, it doesn’t long to drill through both sides. Note, make sure the steering shaft is pulled-out some so you do not drill into it…

Once the new hole is drilled, you can now push the steering shaft all the way back in, and the holes should now align [hole you drilled with the groove-pin hole in the steering shaft]. Now you can take a 1 & ½” X ¼ carriage bolt, align the holes and push the bolt through the steering tube and steering shaft, then put a lock nut washer and nut on the other side and tighten her up. Now your steering shaft is snug, it doesn’t slide out when you pull on the steering wheel and fall on your axx.

If you want a final picture of the product, you can e-mail me and I will send you a picture of the final product. If you ever want to go back to the sliding shaft, you can just reverse the process and the hood covers everything…good luck,
tstex

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tom pazdernik

04-01-2012 15:28:16




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 Re: Steering on a MT in reply to tstex, 02-09-2012 15:41:27  
please send me pictures if u could of the finished product thanks tom



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Hotflashjr

02-09-2012 14:01:49




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 Re: Steering on a MT in reply to Wormburner, 02-09-2012 12:38:42  
Likely you will need new pins in the box or a new worm gear. You can take shims out from under the cap on the front of the unit but that's doesn't take up much slop in the wheels. Mine was also missing the cork seal in there and had bad bearings. I didn't replace the worm gear and I still have some slop in 4th gear. That will be the next step.



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Hotflashjr

02-09-2012 14:01:03




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 Re: Steering on a MT in reply to Wormburner, 02-09-2012 12:38:42  
Likely you will need new pins in the box or a new worm gear. You can take shims out from under the cap on the front of the unit but that's doesn't take up much slop in the wheels. Mine was also missing the cork seal in there and had bad bearings. I didn't replace the worm gear and I still have some slop in 4th gear. That will be the next step.



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